> “somewhere in your teens” includes people who are still minors It does! Versus jus soli which includes people that are only days old... > again, if their p

> “somewhere in your teens” includes people who are still minors It does! Versus jus soli which includes people that are only days old... > again, if their parents have no grounds for residence, it is typical Again I'm talking about what I find moral, not what's typical. And if you have no grounds for residence you're usually not staying there for over a decade. If someone does stay and raise a child for well over a decade, despite lack of grounds, there's a point where that child shouldn't be forced "back" to a "homeland" that isn't their actual home. Also if it's more convincing we could stick to a threshold of 18 for right now. That would still do most of the job.