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call and email your congresspeoples, and tell them not to go through with this
by shomp 3mo ago
call and email your congresspeoples, and tell them not to go through with this
- none2585 3mo agoThen donate millions in campaign contributions to ensure they actually care at all what you think!
- vegetablepotpie 3mo agoCoordinated opposition campaigns against misinformed and dangerous legislation has been effective in stopping bad laws [1]. After a website blackout, including a Wikipedia shutdown, lawmakers in Washington decided not to proceed with the Stop Online Privacy Act in 2012. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
- none2585 3mo agoFrom your linked Wikipedia articles many corporations including Google were part of that opposite campaign. Exactly the type of people donating untold millions to our legislatures. Had nothing to do with any kind of grassroots pressure.
- anigbrowl 3mo agoWoohoo, what about this great success (checks notes) 14 years ago?! You think political counterparties don't adapt and refine their tactics?
- noosphr 3mo agoMoney is a poor substitute for people who care. The only people who think otherwise are terminally online losers who have never organized anything larger than a birthday party.
- verisimi 3mo agoAre you talking from experience? What legislation have you organised?
- mlnj 3mo ago> terminally online losers
- noosphr 3mo agoI got new bike lanes installed around the neogboirhood after I wrote to the local city representative about it, then went to a city where I did a PowerPoint presentation of all the places that you could get killed if the driver wasn't paying attention. It took a month from first letter to new bikelanes.
- none2585 3mo agoThis sounds like exactly the gumption we need to finally get the federal government to represent the common man.
- noosphr 3mo agoTwo people were killed in the next city within six months because no one bothered to fix their paths. One was a child. If someone had bothered to write to that council they'd be alive. But by all means, keep winning online arguments and doing nothing.
- cindyllm 3mo ago[dead]
- none2585 3mo agoNo I'm with you, I'm inspired. Let's fight them!
- verisimi 3mo ago
- rsoto2 3mo agoEspiallat ($9.5 million) vs Darializa (350k) Money matters but a popular movement is more powerful still in some places look up DSA
- none2585 3mo agoUnfortunately "some places" does not include the US federal government.
- echelon 3mo agoWe do not need to lose our rights to privacy because people want to control what their kids do and see. (I'm not even convinced this is true - this is likely just a convenient lie told by the politicians, because I don't see parents clamoring for this.) We're below replacement rate, so it's not like most people are even having kids, anyway. Yet we have to give up our freedom for other people to raise little Christian tots (or whatever the motivation for this is billed as)? I grew up in a Deep South Protestant household. Having access to the unfiltered internet got me interested in STEM. Bumping into occasional shock sites and porn as a preteen did not turn me into a satanist cannibal. Keeping "Kids Safe" is a LIE. This is about putting collars on every US citizen. They'll filter you into groups. They'll control what loans and jobs you can get. They'll use this information to blackmail you should you ever run for office or gain wealth or power. This is a threat to democracy and personal liberty. Child safety is a LIE.
- microgpt 3mo agoWhen did you grow up? The internet in 2006 and 2026 were nothing alike.
- aand16 3mo agoGo on...
- bluefirebrand 3mo agoYeah, the 2026 internet is way safer
- ethbr1 3mo agoThe internet in 1986 and 1996 was nothing like 2006. 2006 is on the other side of the event horizon of "Don't be evil."
- giancarlostoro 3mo agoIdk about that one chief, maybe 2016 was tamer than that, 2006 was still wild.
- Bender 3mo agoand have your children on the phone telling them to not let companies store and leak their information before they are old enough to consent to this. If they are asking you to leave a message, have your kids leave the message.
- andai 3mo agoIsn't it interesting how they're doing it in every anglo country simultaneously? How does that work?
- shevy-java 3mo agoBecause it is an organized attack. The lobbyists got their orders, now they pull it through. It is kind of fascinating to see though - I bet many people don't realise this coordinated attack. To me it is blatantly easy to notice. I am glad to not be the only one here.
- ethbr1 3mo agoOne cannot use a handwavey "organized" and "coordinated" without a subject. Who specifically do you propose is ordering this?
- shomp 3mo agoIf Facebook, in light of the 2021 "Facebook Papers," believed the legislation inevitable, what kind of legislation would maximize its advantage? Noteworthily, the legislation moves age verification from individual apps to app-store operators [Apple, Google] which reduces Facebooks legal exposure for inaccurate/incorrect age verifications.
- andai 3mo agoContext: https://youtu.be/4KyiLyOxux8 https://youtu.be/4KyiLyOxux8
- Hizonner 3mo ago[dead]
- microgpt 3mo agoBecause the internet is global and the negative effects of the internet are happening everywhere at the same time. Also, politicians look at other countries for ideas.
- CamperBob2 3mo agoDon't forget to enclose a check
- anigbrowl 3mo agoAnd if they do it anyway? Sure, you can vote them out but it's hard to dislodge incumbents especially over policy choices rather than obvious problems like corruption. Then even after you've ejected them, you need to push their successor into the Sisyphean task of rewriting populist legislation. Representative democracy is not adequate to the demands of the information age, where the informational asymmetry between individual and state is unprecedented in history. It's time to explore other models like administrative democracy.
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- monksy 3mo agoDetails on how to do that here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48711871 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48711871