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Unlike the downvoters, I'm genuinely curious: do you believe a narrative that the US has no gun control laws? Sometimes I wonder if that is what people outside

by xbar 3mo ago

Unlike the downvoters, I'm genuinely curious: do you believe a narrative that the US has no gun control laws? Sometimes I wonder if that is what people outside the US think.

Ancapistani 3mo ago
It’s what approximately half of US voters think.
- derwiki 3mo ago
  I think that half thinks gun laws are for the bad guys, and they’re the good guy with the gun
IshKebab 3mo ago
Nah you're not talking about the same thing. When you say it has gun control laws you're thinking "you have to wait 10 days to buy a pistol". When he says it has no gun control laws he's thinking "after 10 days you can buy a pistol". Poor choice of words on his part perhaps, but I think it was pretty obvious what he meant if you're not nitpicking.
- RossBencina 3mo ago
  Right. Combination of poor choice of words, ignorance and laziness not educating myself before posting. But yes, I am Australian, came of age around the time of Port Arthur, I cross Hoddle St a number of times every week. I remember the amnesty. The contrast in gun culture does seem stark.
RossBencina 3mo ago
I'll try to answer as accurately as I can. The narrative that I read into the media that I consume is that (1) the US has ineffective gun control laws, and (2) that there is widespread availability of a variety of guns and ammunition to anyone who wants it. I believe that gun ownership is a constitutional right in the US. I was aware that only some states are "open carry." I am not surprised to be corrected that some states have strict legislation, but I was not aware of that, and it does not seem consistent with my understanding of gun freedom in the USA. I triangulate (1) from the ongoing mass shootings in the US and the few mass shootings that I recall from my youth: for a long time it seemed to me that the 1996 National Firearms Agreement [1] had been effective here in Australia. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Agreement
- Auracle 3mo ago
  > that there is widespread availability of a variety of guns and ammunition to anyone who wants it Felons (largely) aren't allowed to own guns. There are other restrictions as well. Apart from that, yes, in most states most people are allowed to have firearms.
- jatora 3mo ago
  Lol what an AI response
  - RossBencina 3mo ago
    Except it wasn't.

by xbar 3mo ago

Unlike the downvoters, I'm genuinely curious: do you believe a narrative that the US has no gun control laws? Sometimes I wonder if that is what people outside the US think.

Ancapistani 3mo ago

It’s what approximately half of US voters think.

derwiki 3mo ago
I think that half thinks gun laws are for the bad guys, and they’re the good guy with the gun

IshKebab 3mo ago

Nah you're not talking about the same thing. When you say it has gun control laws you're thinking "you have to wait 10 days to buy a pistol". When he says it has no gun control laws he's thinking "after 10 days you can buy a pistol". Poor choice of words on his part perhaps, but I think it was pretty obvious what he meant if you're not nitpicking.

RossBencina 3mo ago
Right. Combination of poor choice of words, ignorance and laziness not educating myself before posting. But yes, I am Australian, came of age around the time of Port Arthur, I cross Hoddle St a number of times every week. I remember the amnesty. The contrast in gun culture does seem stark.

RossBencina 3mo ago

I'll try to answer as accurately as I can. The narrative that I read into the media that I consume is that (1) the US has ineffective gun control laws, and (2) that there is widespread availability of a variety of guns and ammunition to anyone who wants it. I believe that gun ownership is a constitutional right in the US. I was aware that only some states are "open carry." I am not surprised to be corrected that some states have strict legislation, but I was not aware of that, and it does not seem consistent with my understanding of gun freedom in the USA. I triangulate (1) from the ongoing mass shootings in the US and the few mass shootings that I recall from my youth: for a long time it seemed to me that the 1996 National Firearms Agreement [1] had been effective here in Australia. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Agreement

Auracle 3mo ago
> that there is widespread availability of a variety of guns and ammunition to anyone who wants it Felons (largely) aren't allowed to own guns. There are other restrictions as well. Apart from that, yes, in most states most people are allowed to have firearms.
jatora 3mo ago
Lol what an AI response
- RossBencina 3mo ago
  Except it wasn't.