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I think that’s dependent on jurisdiction. This comes up with fonts where what you said applies in the US but in Europe, the actual visual result of the software

I think that’s dependent on jurisdiction. This comes up with fonts where what you said applies in the US but in Europe, the actual visual result of the software also counts and is protected (afaik).

victorbjorklund 3mo ago
I don’t know any jurisdiction that gives copyright to the rendered output of html/css. There can be other IP (patents, pattern, trademark but doubt they apply for a normal saas ui)
- echoangle 3mo ago
  Germany? The creative work is protected, and the design can be a creative work. How you implement it doesn’t really matter.
  - victorbjorklund 3mo ago
    Which paragraph? I doubt it really covers the final outputted design (unless its specifically some art project) of general ui designs.
    - echoangle 3mo ago
      paragraph 2 I don’t really see why it’s hard to believe that the design of a website wouldn’t be protected. Obviously a digital painting is protected, so hand writing svg code to generate an image would also result in an image that’s protected by copyright. And why would a html website not be protected? The law doesn’t really care about how you create the work as long as it is an expression of your own creativity. https://dejure.org/dienste/vernetzung/rechtsprechung?Text=2%20W%2012/07 https://dejure.org/dienste/vernetzung/rechtsprechung?Text=2%... > Es ist allgemein anerkannt, dass der Gestaltung von Webseiten unabhängig von der Digitalisierung ihres Inhalts ein Urheberrechtsschutz zukommen kann, sofern die Gestaltung die gemäß § 2 Abs. 2 UrhG erforderliche Schöpfungshöhe erreicht (OLG Frankfurt a.a.O.; OLG Hamm, MMR 2005, 106; OLG Düsseldorf MMR 1999, 729; LG München I MMR 2005, 267). Dies kommt aber grundsätzlich nur dann in Betracht, wenn die Gestaltung der Webseiten über das hinausgeht, was bei ordnungsgemäßer Erstellung eines Webauftritts im Internet handwerklich zu leisten ist.

victorbjorklund 3mo ago

I don’t know any jurisdiction that gives copyright to the rendered output of html/css. There can be other IP (patents, pattern, trademark but doubt they apply for a normal saas ui)

echoangle 3mo ago
Germany? The creative work is protected, and the design can be a creative work. How you implement it doesn’t really matter.
- victorbjorklund 3mo ago
  Which paragraph? I doubt it really covers the final outputted design (unless its specifically some art project) of general ui designs.
  - echoangle 3mo ago
    paragraph 2 I don’t really see why it’s hard to believe that the design of a website wouldn’t be protected. Obviously a digital painting is protected, so hand writing svg code to generate an image would also result in an image that’s protected by copyright. And why would a html website not be protected? The law doesn’t really care about how you create the work as long as it is an expression of your own creativity. https://dejure.org/dienste/vernetzung/rechtsprechung?Text=2%20W%2012/07 https://dejure.org/dienste/vernetzung/rechtsprechung?Text=2%... > Es ist allgemein anerkannt, dass der Gestaltung von Webseiten unabhängig von der Digitalisierung ihres Inhalts ein Urheberrechtsschutz zukommen kann, sofern die Gestaltung die gemäß § 2 Abs. 2 UrhG erforderliche Schöpfungshöhe erreicht (OLG Frankfurt a.a.O.; OLG Hamm, MMR 2005, 106; OLG Düsseldorf MMR 1999, 729; LG München I MMR 2005, 267). Dies kommt aber grundsätzlich nur dann in Betracht, wenn die Gestaltung der Webseiten über das hinausgeht, was bei ordnungsgemäßer Erstellung eines Webauftritts im Internet handwerklich zu leisten ist.