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It's thinking like this that guarantees one becomes a member of the underclass. We've developed a technology that with active critical analysis this can teach o

It's thinking like this that guarantees one becomes a member of the underclass. We've developed a technology that with active critical analysis this can teach one practically anything. Rather than saying "well, let's get on teaching critical analysis!" we have the vast majority shouting the sky is falling and they are sure glad to be retiring soon. SMH.

zetalyrae 4mo ago
For every person using AI as a personal tutor there's a hundred people using it to produce AI slop articles, slop scientific papers, slop short stories, to checck out of living and let the AI do all their thinking and writing and creation. Voluntary disempowerment is already here!
- bsenftner 4mo ago
  For many, this is how they learn. They are experience learners, which is the vast majority. This overwhelming condemning of people learning, not being excellent first try, always comparing against the famous top tiers of everything is Lord Of The Flies. Fuck it: make slop, swim in slop, and emerge smarter. Condemn those experiencing and trying and learning is the stupid slop.
yiggnewer 4mo ago
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dag100 3mo ago
> We've developed a technology that with active critical analysis this can teach one practically anything. While I would love to share your optimism, if AI continues improving at its current pace most people would be pushed into destitution before they have any ability or opportunity to utilize their newfound knowledge for their own betterment. That's the whole point of "permanent". Nothing you know or do will improve your living standards beyond that threshold.
- bsenftner 3mo ago
  Now you're talking about economics, and the morality question nobody wants to include in economics because then the wealthy just leave. And that's the key: the wealthy do not want any laws or boundaries on them, but they insist on them on us.
  - dag100 3mo ago
    Well, countries that limit the wealthy from leaving have never done particularly well for themselves. This has been the case historically, at least. Whether this has been due to their own deficiencies or external factors is highly debatable. Not to mention that wealth is power because we measure everything using money nowadays, and apart from money there is really no better universal unit.

zetalyrae 4mo ago

For every person using AI as a personal tutor there's a hundred people using it to produce AI slop articles, slop scientific papers, slop short stories, to checck out of living and let the AI do all their thinking and writing and creation. Voluntary disempowerment is already here!

bsenftner 4mo ago
For many, this is how they learn. They are experience learners, which is the vast majority. This overwhelming condemning of people learning, not being excellent first try, always comparing against the famous top tiers of everything is Lord Of The Flies. Fuck it: make slop, swim in slop, and emerge smarter. Condemn those experiencing and trying and learning is the stupid slop.

yiggnewer 4mo ago

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dag100 3mo ago

> We've developed a technology that with active critical analysis this can teach one practically anything. While I would love to share your optimism, if AI continues improving at its current pace most people would be pushed into destitution before they have any ability or opportunity to utilize their newfound knowledge for their own betterment. That's the whole point of "permanent". Nothing you know or do will improve your living standards beyond that threshold.

bsenftner 3mo ago
Now you're talking about economics, and the morality question nobody wants to include in economics because then the wealthy just leave. And that's the key: the wealthy do not want any laws or boundaries on them, but they insist on them on us.
- dag100 3mo ago
  Well, countries that limit the wealthy from leaving have never done particularly well for themselves. This has been the case historically, at least. Whether this has been due to their own deficiencies or external factors is highly debatable. Not to mention that wealth is power because we measure everything using money nowadays, and apart from money there is really no better universal unit.