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Maybe colleges can just accept the best students and do their job of educating them instead of arrogantly appointing themselves as saviors and righters of all w
by consensus1 4mo ago
Maybe colleges can just accept the best students and do their job of educating them instead of arrogantly appointing themselves as saviors and righters of all wrongs in the world.
- jasonmp85 4mo ago[dead]
- readthenotes1 4mo agoIn the USA, at least, "every student college bound" has led to colleges being simply more high school but at an enormous cost of creating indentured servents. It will be very hard to to force colleges to downsize to the appropriate population count. Lots of prestige and money on the line
- rolph 4mo agothe size of the cohort isnt the problem, its the enshrinement of catechisms that perpetuate a mentality of blue collar legacy.
- MyHonestOpinon 4mo agoCan you explain ? I understand each word but not the meaning of the whole sentence.
- consensus1 4mo agoIt would actually be very easy. Just stop subsidizing them with student loans from the government.
- malfist 4mo agoHigher education is the most potent tool for breaking the cycle of poverty. Your plan would lock people into the cycle of poverty for generations. Besides, how do you even define "best student". One that scores the highest on the SATs and has the highest high school grade? There's so much more to being a good learner than having the opportunity to get high grades and high test scores.
- WalterBright 4mo agoSAT scores are excellent predictors of success in college. The triad top colleges look for: 1. SAT score 2. high school grades 3. evidence of being a self-motivated person
- consensus1 4mo agoIt's the opposite. Gatekeeping employment on that stupid credential is the best way to keep people in poverty.
- bossyTeacher 4mo ago> Maybe colleges can just accept the best students If you want to see what a world where universities do that, check Europe in the 11th century. You might just like it
- alex43578 4mo agoAnd if you want to see a world where colleges accept everyone, without requiring a minimum qualification, look at our current system: over 50% of students lack proficient literacy skills. It shouldn’t be controversial to recognize that some students are not capable of success in college.
- rolph 4mo agodo you mean intrinsically not capable, or systemicaly not capable.
- alex43578 4mo agoIntrinsically. Someone with an IQ of 85 will not be successful in college. The idea that anyone can be anything is harmful to everyone. If you are 5’2”, you won’t make it in today’s NBA. If you are 400lbs, you are not healthy. I’m sure some people have been failed by the K-12 educational system, but the answer isn’t to further degrade the college system.
- tptacek 4mo agoThis assumes "IQ" is fixed, but it isn't.
- alex43578 4mo agoIQ remains relatively stable through life: that’s what makes it a good measure of general intelligence, when tested appropriately. It’s even more predictive when you realize that the SAT/ACT are given a year or two before college: this isn’t tracking someone at age 5, but saying someone a year away from college lacks the skills and knowledge to perform well in class next year. If schools actually consistently applied standardized test scores as part of admissions, without padding scores for race or economics, it’d be better for everyone. It might sting to be told you won’t do well in college, but wouldn’t that $100 test be better than taking on $50K in debt to find that out? Research backs this: SAT scores strongly correlate with GPA, retention, and degree completion. High scores even are predictors of life outcomes: income, occupational achievement, medical degrees, etc.
- reubenswartz 4mo agoWhat does "best" mean?