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Not commenting on Reid specifically but on the other hand I don't understand why we should listen to the Tech CEO's / Founders about their opinions on the tech
by tripledry 3mo ago
Not commenting on Reid specifically but on the other hand I don't understand why we should listen to the Tech CEO's / Founders about their opinions on the tech they are selling.
- petilon 3mo agoWhy wouldn't you listen to a company on why their product solves the problem you're having?
- buellerbueller 3mo agoCompanies lie.
- petilon 3mo agoYes, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to them. You listen to them and you evaluate their claims.
- buellerbueller 3mo agoIt seems to me that the original poster meant "listen" in the sense of "believe," not "listen" in the sense of "hear."
- __alexs 3mo agoTo be truly impartial I don't think you should even evaluate their claims directly. This allows them to focus the comparison on things they care about, not the things you care about. Instead you should decide what problems you need solving, and evaluate solutions to those problems against your own rubric.
- bckr 3mo ago“Listen” is being used in a non-literal way here, with the meaning “to accept as true”.
- tripledry 3mo agoYou are correct, I simply mean we should keep in mind that they are also selling something. If you ask an AWS consultant what the best solution for your problem is, don't be surprised if the answer is AWS.
- peterspath 3mo agoHumans lie
- buellerbueller 3mo agoCompanies exist to influence others.
- JumpCrisscross 3mo agoWhat do you think anyone talking to the press or commenting on social media is up to?
- buellerbueller 3mo agoEvery company exists to get money; it is literally their lifeblood. Not every human on social media or talking to the press is trying to influence others in a survival situation. Go touch grass.
- peterspath 3mo agoCompanies are organisations of people that have a common goal. Yes to make money so they can provide a roof and food for their families. But also other goals. To invent. To create. To provide goods and services. People lie.
- tantalor 3mo agoSince you're not picking up on a social subtext, "we should not listen to them" here means "don't be influenced by them" or "don't take their words as granted". In other words, we should be skeptical, not literally shut them out.
- JumpCrisscross 3mo ago> we should be skeptical, not literally shut them out To be fair, this isn’t obvious from the top comment. Another comment literally argues for shutting them out [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48660630 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48660630
- simianwords 3mo agoI see an interesting schism in the discussion - there are two camps here. One is normative: listen to tech CEO's if you want to predict what will happen. Another is positive: let CEO's tell you what ought to happen. What happened here was the original commenter talked about listening to Reid for normative reason but the conversation got derailed into ignoring CEO's for positive statements. This is something I see often where one talks about what would happen but people barge in to signal their ethics and morals instead.
- rsynnott 3mo agoSo, the multinational company is probably better at lying than the average person is at discerning lies. There’s an argument that the best approach is to totally ignore what the vendor says and listen to trusted experts instead. If you’re buying a car, say, you’re probably not listening to what car manufacturers say. Or, at least, you shouldn’t; you will be mislead. If you happen to be an expert on cars it might be no harm, but otherwise probably best ignore them.