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If that becomes current law I don’t want to ever hear about Europe being over-regulated compared to the US…

• micromacrofoot 5mo ago
  Regulatory speaking, California is America's Europe
  • kogasa240p 5mo ago
    Without the robust train system, but that is changing slowly.
  • jltsiren 5mo ago
    Europe favors comprehensive regulation, with laws or directives dealing with families of related issues. California does regulation in a very American way, with individual bills targeting specific issues. It just does more of that than the average state.
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    • micromacrofoot 5mo ago
      no I said california is europe, not in it
• xienze 5mo ago
  Well that's one state, and the one that fancies itself as the most European in spirit, at that.
  • gpm 5mo ago
    It's 1/10th the US population though, and probably 1/2 the population of US 3d printing nerds.
    • dimitrios1 5mo ago
      and I would imagine close to 100% of the US 3d printing nerds that live there have the means to easily move to another state and continue their 3d printing nerdom. There is a reason why California is leading the nation in migration out of the state.
      • gpm 5mo ago
        Because real estate is super expensive because everyone keeps moving there?
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          • gpm 5mo ago
            Nah I haven't been in California, or lived in the US, since COVID. My reaction here could easily be outdated but I have it because even back then people would say basically exactly what you were saying despite the clear evidence of high demand.
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    • bluescrn 5mo ago
      They can cross state lines, take a trip to Vegas, visit the casinos and makerspaces...
• whalesalad 5mo ago
  california is the europe of the united states, for better or for worse.
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  • waffletower 5mo ago
    Describing California as "the Europe of the United States" ignores its essential narcissism -- defining California in terms of Europe would be met with contemptuous pashaws, even if the balkanized ethnic enclaves found there, at a scale larger than anywhere in the U.S. -- not even New York, resemble Europe. The Asian communities will also wonder if you can find Vietnam on a map -- would guess you think it is in the Mediterranean.
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• vor_ 5mo ago
  There are several snarky knee-jerk reactions in the comments here, but state assemblies pass things all the time that ultimately fail to pass or get vetoed. Now the public will debate it, contact their state senators to give their opinions...it's all part of the process.
  • harshreality 5mo ago
    A law like this just passed in New York State. If this fails it'll be because the tech industry expresses disapproval too loudly to ignore. The legislators don't care about the underlying criticism. Almost no legislators have ever used a 3d printer or written any software, beyond maybe simple assigned programs if they had a required intro-to-programming course. Few are "tech" people. The rest don't understand this technology, or any technology really, beyond it being a black box for specific purposes. They see 3d printing and plastic guns and think something must be done, because the 3d printing black boxes are producing dangerous weapons.
    • jasonfarnon 5mo ago
      Are these laws already on the books places like Europe, Japan with strict gun control laws?
      • elzbardico 5mo ago
        Good laws for gun control probably are enough to cover also 3D printed guns.
        • int_19h 5mo ago
          The problem, as far as they are concerned, is enforcement. The law can say that X is illegal and ban selling it, but if you can 3D-print it, and its use is already illegal either way, then the law is moot. Note that this isn't really limited to guns either. I foresee a similar moral panic wrt 3D printing "killer drones" (i.e. parts that allow one to attach explosive to a drone) and software that allows you to circumvent various restrictions on drone firmware. All it'll take is one high profile attack using a drone...
• paleotrope 5mo ago
  You have to compare Europe to California.
  • kazinator 5mo ago
    Calieurnia. :)
• WheatMillington 5mo ago
  Americans are not allowed to buy Kinder eggs.
• dmitrygr 5mo ago
  CA != USA. USA has plenty of saner places. In fact, one could argue that CA is a local minimum for sanity in USA
  • dgellow 5mo ago
    HN regularly judges the whole European subcontinent based on laws in a single country