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True, it's not exactly the same situation, but it does ban them for the riders (the teens) who were previously on them. You could make it more analogous by say

True, it's not exactly the same situation, but it does ban them for the riders (the teens) who were previously on them. You could make it more analogous by saying that we could enforce stricter regulations on big SUVs and trucks in terms of, say, driver licensing, and you'd still have a huge outcry if we tried that.

mothballed 4mo ago
It blew my mind the first time I rented a 35' long 26,000 GVWR diesel truck and drove it right onto the interstate. What you can accomplish on a simple US driving license is something special you can't get almost anywhere else in the world unless you count places where bribes work. The EU cuts you off at like 8,000 lbs.
- KetoManx64 4mo ago
  Gotta love regulation stifling the living daylights our of your society.
  - mschuster91 4mo ago
    Or: Gotta love regulation keeping our societies alive. The US averages 14.9/100k traffic fatalities, Europe 6.7 [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-r...
    - Scoundreller 4mo ago
      Canada beats the euro average at 4.7 but similarly allows regular Joe’s to drive a moving truck and trailer a car behind it with a general license. + Canada’s rates are better on a per km basis (even beating the Dutch). Annual/biannual safety inspections are only required in 3 of 10 provinces and those 3 are on the smaller side (PEI, NS and NB). Motor vehicle infraction enforcement is… an afterthought for Canadian police (they don’t think/care that their salary/town depends on it). But admittedly, even lighter than I’ve experienced in Europe. It’s gotta be some other factor behind excess US road fatalities.
      - KetoManx64 4mo ago
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        AlotOfReading 4mo ago
        If you think Canada of all places doesn't have immigrants driving around, boy do I have news for you.
        orthecreedence 4mo ago
        Yes! The migrants fleeing to the US with nothing but the shirt on their back and tens of thousands of dollars in their pocket so they can buy an F350 Superduty and run over kids with it.
        mothballed 4mo ago
        They're not buying the commercial tractor-trailers they're just operating them with CDLs California issued to them without even having enough basic English knowledge to read road signs, with predictable results. Of course this is partially a problem of the government creating the problem of disqualifying Californians who could perform the job. Like 40% of California smokes weed but recreational use disqualifies you from a DOT physical for interstate CDL driving eligibility, and probably medical too though for not much longer since it's now schedule III and the DOT just hasn't caught up with the rescheduling yet.
        wredcoll 4mo ago
        Do you have proof of any of that?
        mothballed 4mo ago
        An investigation by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration found significant failures by California, Washington, and New Mexico to properly place drivers out-of-service for ELP violations. In addition to the data, California Highway Patrol has also publicly stated it has no intention of following this important federal regulation. California – California has failed to adopt and enforce compatible ELP laws and regulations. From June 25, 2025 through August 21, 2025, of the roughly 34,000 inspections resulting in at least one reported violation, only one inspection involved an ELP violation resulting in a driver being placed out of service. Notably, at least 23 drivers with documented ELP out-of-service violations in other states were later inspected in California – yet the state failed to honor those violations or enforce ELP, allowing unqualified drivers to continue operating on our roads. https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/trumps-transportation-secretary-sean-p-duffy-california-washington-and-new-mexico https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/trumps-transpor...
    - scottyah 4mo ago
      Nothing better than being alive! We should ban all forms of transportation that aren't walking, which will be heavily permitted.
- TulliusCicero 4mo ago
  And you can literally fall asleep at the wheel and get away with a $300 fine: https://komonews.com/news/local/sleeping-tesla-driver-speeding-ticket-autopilot-tesla-car-highway-washington-state-patrol-i5-traffic https://komonews.com/news/local/sleeping-tesla-driver-speedi...

mothballed 4mo ago

It blew my mind the first time I rented a 35' long 26,000 GVWR diesel truck and drove it right onto the interstate. What you can accomplish on a simple US driving license is something special you can't get almost anywhere else in the world unless you count places where bribes work. The EU cuts you off at like 8,000 lbs.

KetoManx64 4mo ago
Gotta love regulation stifling the living daylights our of your society.
- mschuster91 4mo ago
  Or: Gotta love regulation keeping our societies alive. The US averages 14.9/100k traffic fatalities, Europe 6.7 [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-r...
  - Scoundreller 4mo ago
    Canada beats the euro average at 4.7 but similarly allows regular Joe’s to drive a moving truck and trailer a car behind it with a general license. + Canada’s rates are better on a per km basis (even beating the Dutch). Annual/biannual safety inspections are only required in 3 of 10 provinces and those 3 are on the smaller side (PEI, NS and NB). Motor vehicle infraction enforcement is… an afterthought for Canadian police (they don’t think/care that their salary/town depends on it). But admittedly, even lighter than I’ve experienced in Europe. It’s gotta be some other factor behind excess US road fatalities.
    - KetoManx64 4mo ago
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      - AlotOfReading 4mo ago
        If you think Canada of all places doesn't have immigrants driving around, boy do I have news for you.
      - orthecreedence 4mo ago
        Yes! The migrants fleeing to the US with nothing but the shirt on their back and tens of thousands of dollars in their pocket so they can buy an F350 Superduty and run over kids with it.
        mothballed 4mo ago
        They're not buying the commercial tractor-trailers they're just operating them with CDLs California issued to them without even having enough basic English knowledge to read road signs, with predictable results. Of course this is partially a problem of the government creating the problem of disqualifying Californians who could perform the job. Like 40% of California smokes weed but recreational use disqualifies you from a DOT physical for interstate CDL driving eligibility, and probably medical too though for not much longer since it's now schedule III and the DOT just hasn't caught up with the rescheduling yet.
        wredcoll 4mo ago
        Do you have proof of any of that?
        mothballed 4mo ago
        An investigation by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration found significant failures by California, Washington, and New Mexico to properly place drivers out-of-service for ELP violations. In addition to the data, California Highway Patrol has also publicly stated it has no intention of following this important federal regulation. California – California has failed to adopt and enforce compatible ELP laws and regulations. From June 25, 2025 through August 21, 2025, of the roughly 34,000 inspections resulting in at least one reported violation, only one inspection involved an ELP violation resulting in a driver being placed out of service. Notably, at least 23 drivers with documented ELP out-of-service violations in other states were later inspected in California – yet the state failed to honor those violations or enforce ELP, allowing unqualified drivers to continue operating on our roads. https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/trumps-transportation-secretary-sean-p-duffy-california-washington-and-new-mexico https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/trumps-transpor...
  - scottyah 4mo ago
    Nothing better than being alive! We should ban all forms of transportation that aren't walking, which will be heavily permitted.
TulliusCicero 4mo ago
And you can literally fall asleep at the wheel and get away with a $300 fine: https://komonews.com/news/local/sleeping-tesla-driver-speeding-ticket-autopilot-tesla-car-highway-washington-state-patrol-i5-traffic https://komonews.com/news/local/sleeping-tesla-driver-speedi...