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If the latest Gaza war taught us anything, is that UN is powerless. And, unfortunately, it is the highest entity that could apply leverage here, so... Not much

If the latest Gaza war taught us anything, is that UN is powerless. And, unfortunately, it is the highest entity that could apply leverage here, so... Not much we can do. In the long term I hope other nations realize they are very vulnerable and begin to invest more in defense, but that escalation can have other downsides.

spwa4 4mo ago
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- ebbi 4mo ago
  "Every attack has to end with occupation, destruction and expulsion." - David Ben-Gurion. Pretty sure he died well before Oct 7.
  - spwa4 4mo ago
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    - lorecore 4mo ago
      Actually it was the Zionists that worked with the Nazis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
      - Sabinus 4mo ago
        While we're posting Wikipedia links about Nazi collaboration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini
        spwa4 4mo ago
        I'd like to add, dragging in Hitler because none of WW2 can be explained without him, and the parent poster posted details about the conflict that immediately preceded the independence of the state of Israel. Right before that, WW2 happened and so what happened in the 2 cannot be seen separate from each other. Hence both sides' behavior during WW2 should be seen as part of the context of what David Ben-Gurion was doing, and Palestinians ... chose a side, let's put it that way.
        ebbi 3mo ago
        You purposely trying to claim Hussaini was 'the pope' of Muslims as though he was a central figure of authority that spoke for Muslims/Palestinians just shows how biased you are - not surprising, given your constant bias on this topic on many other posts. A cursory study on Islam will show you that Islam doesn't have a central figure of authority like the Pope. Therefore what Hussaini did, was him as an individual, and not a decision that can be attributed to all Muslims/Palestinians. So the fact remains that Zionists as a group collaborated with the Nazis. Hussainin acted as an individual.
        Sabinus 3mo ago
        Hussaini was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem from 1921 to 1937, described as the chief Muslim legal-religious authority in Jerusalem under the Mandate. He was also president of the Supreme Muslim Council, giving him major control over Muslim religious institutions, waqf funds, courts, schools, appointments, teachers, and preachers. He later presided over the Arab Higher Committee, the main umbrella body of Palestinian Arab politics during the 1936–39 revolt. He was one of the most important Palestinian Arab religious-nationalist leaders of the Mandate period and a Nazi collaborator. It's not very logical to condemn Zionists asking Nazi Germany to send Jews to them instead of the camps and then minimise Hussaini's importance and far deeper collaboration.
- runarberg 4mo ago
  This post is genocide apologia disguised as a question of curiosity. It does not belong in a tech forum.
Qem 4mo ago
> highest entity that could apply leverage What is the lowest entity that can apply leverage? Regardless of what US or UN does or doesn't, you can start boycotting today.
- throw310822 4mo ago
  Not completely true, if you're in the US there are laws to punish boycott of Israel.
  - yapadog 4mo ago
    Where are you required to declare your purchases?
tonks 3mo ago
It has taught us the the UN is completely corrupted by antizionist hate. The UN Human Rights Council passed 68 resolutions against Israel in its first decade (2006–2016) — more than the other 67 resolutions against the rest of the world combined, and three times more than any other single country. Meanwhile, 48 countries with serious human rights abuses received zero condemnatory resolutions, including China, Russia, Cuba, Yemen, and Zimbabwe. Countries that did receive resolutions included Syria (20), Myanmar (11), North Korea (9), Belarus (6), Iran (6), and Eritrea (5). Contrast these basket case countries like North Korea and Iran with Israel's record of liberal democracy, free elections, an independent judiciary, rule of law, protections for speech, religion, minorities, women, and LGBTQ people. Israel aint perfect but please, even antzionist haters can see how ridiculously corrupted the UN it is by antizionst hate.

spwa4 4mo ago

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ebbi 4mo ago
"Every attack has to end with occupation, destruction and expulsion." - David Ben-Gurion. Pretty sure he died well before Oct 7.
- spwa4 4mo ago
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  - lorecore 4mo ago
    Actually it was the Zionists that worked with the Nazis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
    - Sabinus 4mo ago
      While we're posting Wikipedia links about Nazi collaboration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini
      - spwa4 4mo ago
        I'd like to add, dragging in Hitler because none of WW2 can be explained without him, and the parent poster posted details about the conflict that immediately preceded the independence of the state of Israel. Right before that, WW2 happened and so what happened in the 2 cannot be seen separate from each other. Hence both sides' behavior during WW2 should be seen as part of the context of what David Ben-Gurion was doing, and Palestinians ... chose a side, let's put it that way.
        ebbi 3mo ago
        You purposely trying to claim Hussaini was 'the pope' of Muslims as though he was a central figure of authority that spoke for Muslims/Palestinians just shows how biased you are - not surprising, given your constant bias on this topic on many other posts. A cursory study on Islam will show you that Islam doesn't have a central figure of authority like the Pope. Therefore what Hussaini did, was him as an individual, and not a decision that can be attributed to all Muslims/Palestinians. So the fact remains that Zionists as a group collaborated with the Nazis. Hussainin acted as an individual.
        Sabinus 3mo ago
        Hussaini was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem from 1921 to 1937, described as the chief Muslim legal-religious authority in Jerusalem under the Mandate. He was also president of the Supreme Muslim Council, giving him major control over Muslim religious institutions, waqf funds, courts, schools, appointments, teachers, and preachers. He later presided over the Arab Higher Committee, the main umbrella body of Palestinian Arab politics during the 1936–39 revolt. He was one of the most important Palestinian Arab religious-nationalist leaders of the Mandate period and a Nazi collaborator. It's not very logical to condemn Zionists asking Nazi Germany to send Jews to them instead of the camps and then minimise Hussaini's importance and far deeper collaboration.
runarberg 4mo ago
This post is genocide apologia disguised as a question of curiosity. It does not belong in a tech forum.

Qem 4mo ago

> highest entity that could apply leverage What is the lowest entity that can apply leverage? Regardless of what US or UN does or doesn't, you can start boycotting today.

throw310822 4mo ago
Not completely true, if you're in the US there are laws to punish boycott of Israel.
- yapadog 4mo ago
  Where are you required to declare your purchases?

tonks 3mo ago

It has taught us the the UN is completely corrupted by antizionist hate. The UN Human Rights Council passed 68 resolutions against Israel in its first decade (2006–2016) — more than the other 67 resolutions against the rest of the world combined, and three times more than any other single country. Meanwhile, 48 countries with serious human rights abuses received zero condemnatory resolutions, including China, Russia, Cuba, Yemen, and Zimbabwe. Countries that did receive resolutions included Syria (20), Myanmar (11), North Korea (9), Belarus (6), Iran (6), and Eritrea (5). Contrast these basket case countries like North Korea and Iran with Israel's record of liberal democracy, free elections, an independent judiciary, rule of law, protections for speech, religion, minorities, women, and LGBTQ people. Israel aint perfect but please, even antzionist haters can see how ridiculously corrupted the UN it is by antizionst hate.