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Your proposal is to use nuclear as only backup? Or for only late nights (after batteries have discharged)? That dooms nukes economically, they need to run and s

by dalyons 4mo ago

Your proposal is to use nuclear as only backup? Or for only late nights (after batteries have discharged)? That dooms nukes economically, they need to run and sell power at close to 100% 24/7 to have any chance paying back the capex & opex. What you’re saying makes sense but only for a planned state economy where the government owns (or subsidizes) all generation. It’s not possible in a free market economy, the nukes would go bankrupt/ never be built

hdgvhicv 4mo ago
Nuclear advocates say “we want to sell power at the same price 24/7” They can’t cope with variable load, they can’t cope with other sources. They are only remotely viable with large amounts of storage.
kelseydh 4mo ago
Most electricity generation is handled by the government already, particularly in Canada. Worldwide approximately 88% of global electricity generation capacity is owned or controlled by national and local governments. Some Canadian provinces have IPPs -- Independent Private-Power companies but they are often operating under the patronage of government. Many owe their existence to privatisation, lobbying and sweetheart contracts. (E.g. in British Columbia, private run-of-river hydro companies scandalously secured a 60 year guaranteed non-market rate on electricity. https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2016/09/12/BC-Hydro-Public-Interest-Private-Profits/?PageSpeed=noscript https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2016/09/12/BC-Hydro-Public-Intere... )
- dalyons 4mo ago
  88% seems impossibly high. “Or controlled by” must be doing some heavy lifting. Government owned power is 9% of the US, 25% of Australia, 1% of the UK. If “or controlled by” means privately owned plants that are subject to local regulations, then that is not particularly interesting or relevant to the discussion

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Your proposal is to use nuclear as only backup? Or for only late nights (after batteries have discharged)? That dooms nukes economically, they need to run and s

by dalyons 4mo ago

hdgvhicv 4mo ago
Nuclear advocates say “we want to sell power at the same price 24/7” They can’t cope with variable load, they can’t cope with other sources. They are only remotely viable with large amounts of storage.
kelseydh 4mo ago
Most electricity generation is handled by the government already, particularly in Canada. Worldwide approximately 88% of global electricity generation capacity is owned or controlled by national and local governments. Some Canadian provinces have IPPs -- Independent Private-Power companies but they are often operating under the patronage of government. Many owe their existence to privatisation, lobbying and sweetheart contracts. (E.g. in British Columbia, private run-of-river hydro companies scandalously secured a 60 year guaranteed non-market rate on electricity. https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2016/09/12/BC-Hydro-Public-Interest-Private-Profits/?PageSpeed=noscript https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2016/09/12/BC-Hydro-Public-Intere... )
- dalyons 4mo ago
  88% seems impossibly high. “Or controlled by” must be doing some heavy lifting. Government owned power is 9% of the US, 25% of Australia, 1% of the UK. If “or controlled by” means privately owned plants that are subject to local regulations, then that is not particularly interesting or relevant to the discussion