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> Now only rich people get to enjoy a sport meant for the masses, yay. I'm so tired of people trying to pretend that limited tickets to an event billions of pe
by jmye 4mo ago
> Now only rich people get to enjoy a sport meant for the masses, yay.
I'm so tired of people trying to pretend that limited tickets to an event billions of people want to attend ought to be available to poor people just because. If they sold for a penny, the resale market would eat them up and they'd still cost what they cost. If you'd bought them for $10, you'd instantly turn around and sell them for a few thousand to someone else.
I'm sorry no one prepared you for the fact that rare things have value, but perhaps some introductory economics classes, instead of TikTok-trite-internet-rage would be helpful.
- drdexebtjl 4mo agoPerhaps if you could find economics professsors that agree with each other, I would. Not everything must be race to the bottom. Not everything should be a fucking market. If only rich snobs and people with poor financial control can afford your tickets, that will be the type of fan you’ll retain.
- scott_w 4mo agoIronically it’s the thing that will destroy many sports. People worldwide watch the premier league for the atmosphere. That comes from working class people singing and following their team. There’s a reason Newcastle fans out-sing the home crowd at Old Trafford every year, even when we’re losing.
- drdexebtjl 4mo agoSame thing applies to live music. If I pay high prices for your tickets and for travel to see you play in one of your limited selection of touring cities, sure, I might go. But if you tour again a few years later, I would rather see an artist I haven’t seen live yet. Meanwhile if the tickets are affordable, I’ll try and go again. You’ll have my renewed interest every time.
- inigyou 4mo agoIf you pay ten times the price for a ticket and go one fifth as much, they win.
- doodledoodahs 4mo agoTennis is terrible to watch these days. It was always a bit of a corporate jolly, but the stands are literally half empty for all but the finals of slams. Nobody really cares for the game...
- scott_w 4mo agoI’m going to straight up call this a classist view to hold. Things like sports events, music events became popular BECAUSE of the working classes watching and taking part. Football, the biggest single sport on Earth would be nothing were it not for the millions of working class people playing it, filling stadiums, following their teams through thick and thin around the world and stretching their budgets to do so. And you think it’s ok for rich people to swoop in, appropriate the attire and vibe of the sport and working class people just need to suck it up because they’re poor? The people who made the sport what it is now can’t enjoy it? The people who STILL make the sport what it is? Disgusting.
- inigyou 4mo agoWhy should poor people be allowed to enjoy things?
- vasco 4mo agoMate poor people never went to any world cup. I find it funny to watch rich guys discuss why it is too expensive to buy a ticket TO THE WORLD CUP. Like that was never a thing people afforded unless you happen to have the luck of your life and live next to one of the stadiums. Most people go to zero ticketed cultural or sports events per year where I'm from, and that's at the country level before you even slice by poor people. It's like watching millionaires discussing that nowadays poor people can't afford to go on a rocket to space.
- inigyou 4mo agoYou assume a big assumption: that everything has to be run by efficient markets.
- vasco 4mo agoThe existence of scalpers is the proof
- inigyou 4mo agoThat it is run like an efficient market, not that it has to be.
- vasco 4mo agoYes if the ticket selling happened in another world with another species other than humans it is possible that nobody would try to scalp. Here on earth people will find ways to bring non-market prices in-line with a market. It has nothing to do with who is selling the original tickets and all to do with how individual people behave with money.
- drdexebtjl 4mo agoI think the point is that there are many ways to perfectly stop scalpers and keep non-market prices. You don’t HAVE to give in to market pressures. For example, you could make tickets non-transferable, but refundable.
- Marsymars 4mo ago> If you'd bought them for $10, you'd instantly turn around and sell them for a few thousand to someone else. I expect there are plenty of people who would in fact, not do that. At many income levels and budgets, gaining $1k from selling a ticket helps a lot less than losing $1k from buying a ticket hurts. Plus many people aren't rational economic actors and would keep the $10 ticket and enjoy the show even if it doesn't make economic sense.
- vasco 4mo agoDo you realize you also need to pay for hotels and flights and food and etc? In such situations of course you'd sell them. People talk as if the ticket is even the problem and that it's cheap to go otherwise.
- inigyou 4mo agoMany ticket platforms have a resale feature and you get back what you paid if someone gets your ticket.
- Marsymars 4mo ago> Do you realize you also need to pay for hotels and flights and food and etc? In such situations of course you'd sell them. Sure, but there's also the situation of all the people who are locals who don't need hotels and flights and food and etc.