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I'll argue -- socialist is not the same as communist. Norway is not a communist country (despite arguably being a socialist one).
by gacgacgac 4mo ago
I'll argue -- socialist is not the same as communist. Norway is not a communist country (despite arguably being a socialist one).
- GMoromisato 4mo agoI agree. Moreover, socialism and capitalism are not antithetical--they are orthogonal. Norway and the US have socialism (e.g., Social Security) and capitalism (e.g., people invest their capital to fund industry). Socialism without capitalism is communism--the state owns everything. Capitalism without socialism is anarchy: if you don't socialize a legal system, law enforcement, and national defense, then you don't have a country.
- Retric 4mo agoEast India company and its armies are something of a counter argument to your second point.
- gacgacgac 4mo agoAnarchism exists within socialism too-- the anti Francoist anarchists in Spain who were crushed by Soviets for doing the wrong kind of socialism, for example. Kropotkin's approach and anarcho syndacalism is anti-statist, and also anti-capitalist. Anarchism is a complex area that can be capitalist, socialist, individualist, collectivist, primitivist, techno..logist? Basically, like communism, anarchism doesn't have just one flavor.