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Notably, though, Persona does not have access to your Claude interactions, other than your signup/verification date. They’ll train on your uploaded docs and pho

by btown 4mo ago

Notably, though, Persona does not have access to your Claude interactions, other than your signup/verification date. They’ll train on your uploaded docs and photos, to be sure, but it won’t be correlated to your chats and projects, unless Anthropic is doing things that would make their counsel have heart attacks.

atmosx 4mo ago
> They’ll train on your uploaded docs and photos, to be sure, but it won’t be correlated to your chats and projects, unless Anthropic is doing things that would make their counsel have heart attacks. And if they do, they'll apologize with a blog post.
appplication 4mo ago
Maybe I’m entirely uncreative here, but if all they have is identity data and the implied data of having triggered a verification event, it feels like at best anything trained on this is really sketchy and could lead to some really messed up analysis. Like “we determined brown people trigger perform Claude queries that trigger identify verification at a rate 70% higher than white people”.
- _heimdall 4mo ago
  They would have access to IDs and whatever photos or real time video/audio is requires to verify. That's a big step towards building quite a large dataset for ID systems used for surveillance, for example. There's also always the risk of not knowing who gets those documents later. The Dutch didn't think much of keeping detailed records including religious affiliation until the Nazis rolled into town. LLM use is obviously much less politically charged today than religion was then (or ever), but that can always change, especially when an administration has already attacked said LLM provider as being something along the lines of a dangerous enemy of the state.
fragmede 4mo ago
> They’ll train on your uploaded docs and photos, to be sure Or they won't. They're not Facebook.
sneak 4mo ago
…and when they inevitably leak your government name with your facial biometrics? You can change your cc number and your phone number and your address. Your facial geometry, not so much.

by btown 4mo ago

atmosx 4mo ago

> They’ll train on your uploaded docs and photos, to be sure, but it won’t be correlated to your chats and projects, unless Anthropic is doing things that would make their counsel have heart attacks. And if they do, they'll apologize with a blog post.

appplication 4mo ago

Maybe I’m entirely uncreative here, but if all they have is identity data and the implied data of having triggered a verification event, it feels like at best anything trained on this is really sketchy and could lead to some really messed up analysis. Like “we determined brown people trigger perform Claude queries that trigger identify verification at a rate 70% higher than white people”.

_heimdall 4mo ago
They would have access to IDs and whatever photos or real time video/audio is requires to verify. That's a big step towards building quite a large dataset for ID systems used for surveillance, for example. There's also always the risk of not knowing who gets those documents later. The Dutch didn't think much of keeping detailed records including religious affiliation until the Nazis rolled into town. LLM use is obviously much less politically charged today than religion was then (or ever), but that can always change, especially when an administration has already attacked said LLM provider as being something along the lines of a dangerous enemy of the state.

fragmede 4mo ago

> They’ll train on your uploaded docs and photos, to be sure Or they won't. They're not Facebook.

sneak 4mo ago

…and when they inevitably leak your government name with your facial biometrics? You can change your cc number and your phone number and your address. Your facial geometry, not so much.