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Well, I'll have to agree to disagree on that. What is moderation if not "calling out"?

• dang 4mo ago
  Calling out, as I understand it, is a tactic of online shaming. We try not to shame anyone, although it does still happen unintentionally.
  • IshKebab 4mo ago
    Oh that's not what I understand it to mean. It's more like highlighting or challenging. See meaning 4.3 here: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/call_out https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/call_out Like someone close to Trump could call him out by saying to him that Meloni didn't beg for a photo with him.
    • dang 4mo ago
      That definition is close to what I mean! But I think you'll find that in online vernacular, to "call $person out for $thing" has the association of publicly shaming $person for some $thing that the caller-outer believes they did, considers bad, and wishes to punish them for and/or pressure them into not doing again.
      • IshKebab 4mo ago
        Oh yeah good point - that is definitely part of the woke movement. I didn't mean it in that sense anyway.
      • dredmorbius 4mo ago
        Seems to me that there's a distinction between calling out a practice or trope and calling out a person. I do the former with ... some regularity (e.g., mis-statements of Weber's definition of government). Where trite/tired comments are frequent, push-back or corrections are also going to be somewhat repetitive. In this thread, dropping "What a load of hogwash" from IshKebab's original reply would have left a perfectly cromulent point. That phrase itself does go against HN's civility guidelines. The comment it replies to is ... tired.
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