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I had a similar decision to make (pilot or motorbike) and the fact that 60%+ of aviation deaths are pilot error and something like 60%+ of motorcycle crashes ar
by bombcar 4mo ago
I had a similar decision to make (pilot or motorbike) and the fact that 60%+ of aviation deaths are pilot error and something like 60%+ of motorcycle crashes are NOT the rider's fault - led me to be a pilot. At least then I can try to make good decisions, e.g, DO NOT FLY INTO WEATHER.
- _jss 4mo agoAnd a lot of the pilot deaths are not because of in-the-moment skill deficiencies. Stick and rudder skills aren't that useful with fuel exhaustion and bad weather planning. It's much easier to stay safer in a plane vs motorcycle. I wish people treated cars and motorcycles properly, especially in the US. Until then, no motorcycles for me either :(
- Insanity 4mo agoYeah, I think the rules for motorcycles are also less stringent in Canada than in EU. And road conditions often not great. Of course the 6 months of winter in Toronto also make it less appealing to drive a motorcycle.
- gritspants 4mo agoMC rider. Many accidents occur during the early years, particularly as the new rider gets comfortable. There's a transition period where your muscle memory kicks in for basic riding skills, but not developed enough to keep you out of trouble. It is an incredible feeling of false confidence that makes you feel invincible. It's possible to be 'smart' and reduce risk during this period, but I'm not advocating people generally go out and start riding either.
- throw0101a 4mo ago> MC rider. Many accidents occur during the early years, particularly as the new rider gets comfortable. A large portion (half?) of crashes also involve alcohol.
- theshackleford 4mo agoAnd riding beyond the conditions. Motorcyclists cause in fact in my country, many of their own accidents. This despite the fact they’ll claim it’s everybody else’s fault. Too bad the statistics say otherwise. I am a motorcyclist myself. I just don’t have the will to lie to myself or others.
- throw0101a 4mo ago"Had to lay'er down." DanDanTheFireman is a good channel that goes over footage and analyses what was done well and what was done badly.
- snozolli 4mo agoYears ago, an article in MCN said that something like 3/4 of all single vehicle motorcyclist fatalities involved alcohol. They also mentioned that Harley cruiser culture was wildly overrepresented. Hopefully, with Baby Boomers aging out of riding, bar-hopping biker culture is disappearing, too.
- FabHK 4mo agoSimilar in aviation, where it’s known as „the killing zone“.
- irjustin 4mo agoThis is true for pretty much everyone in every skill. But that's an empty statement. A huge danger for motorcycle riders is young/new car drivers who fall into this exact local minimum.
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- deadbabe 4mo agoThe stakes get even higher if you fly a plane with your entire family in it. One bad error and you will almost certainly have killed them all.
- schmookeeg 4mo agoA "bad error" in a minivan does this too. The "bad error" in the plane would be flying into a thunderstorm. I equate this gobsmackingly bad judgement with driving a minivan off of a cliff.
- crote 4mo agoBad weather can develop around you, and when flying you can't just pull over and wait for it to pass. A cliff doesn't suddenly develop in front of your minivan. A relatively minor error can quickly develop into a situation well beyond your control, without any way out of it. That kind of fatal escalation is pretty much impossible with road vehicles.
- bombcar 4mo agoThat kind of fatal escalation occurs 40,000 times a year in vehicles.
- crote 4mo agoThe big difference is that aviation doesn't have a pause button. If weather gets bad on the road you can just pull over at basically any time. But if you're flying you have to keep flying until you are able to land.
- bombcar 4mo agoIn GA that’s usually surprisingly quick - it’s absolutely amazing just how many runways are everywhere