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The problem is Boston Dynamics makes actual robots, which are much more limited than robots constructed from pure hype.

theptip 4mo ago
> If you show revenue, people will ask 'HOW MUCH?' and it will never be enough. The company that was the 100xer, the 1000xer is suddenly the 2x dog. But if you have NO revenue, you can say you're pre-revenue! You're a potential pure play... It's not about how much you earn, it's about how much you're worth. And who is worth the most? Companies that lose money! Being less cynical, I do think it’s fair to say that they just didn’t quite find PMF; they aren’t good enough for factory work, Spot is niche, and Atlas is too scary for in-home. The robot butler business model just hasn’t been tested in the same way AFAIK.
- insane_dreamer 4mo ago
  you don't make it into the tres commas club by showing revenue
- moomoo11 4mo ago
  now imagine atlas with depleted uranium armor plates, 120 5.56 rounds (99.7% accuracy), and whatever specific equipment for an individual operator role spot as a ground recon unit that works with drones in the air that create 3d plan of attack instead of sending elite human and dog operators in first, a squad of 4 atlas, 2 spots, and 4 drones is deployed the human teams move in second, close behind also do people really want humanoid robots at home? that’s a lot of space
  - dmix 4mo ago
    Boston dynamics already tried selling to the military but it never really panned out as a big market because their robots were very loud. Which is why they focused on enterprise niches > also do people really want humanoid robots at home? Yes, they will be everywhere IMO
  - XorNot 4mo ago
    > also do people really want humanoid robots at home? The other day I was reflecting on how currently the notion of supervising AI agents sounds like my idea of hell and I'm glad I can mostly do my job without doing it. But conversely, I'd absolutely love having even 1 humanoid robot which could follow simple verbal directions like "hold this tape measure" or "raise your end a little higher" while working as a collaborative team around the house. There is an absolute ton of practical jobs where another human form is needed, but one person is pretty obviously leading the activity and just needs "another pair of hands". A pair of bots which can carry sheet rock over uneven ground around a house? Absolute game changer.
  - Zigurd 4mo ago
    So you think replacing humans on the battlefield with human shaped robots...why? It makes no sense in the same way that humans on a car production line are not replaced by human shaped robots, instead by far stronger, far more capable, far faster robots designed for purpose, not mimicry. There's nothing about a battlefield that makes it a good use case for human shaped robots.
  - ghaff 4mo ago
    >also do people really want humanoid robots at home? For the right price and capabilities? Sure. I pay various people to do things around the house. Replacing those people with a humanoid robot is probably a big ask. But I'd certainly consider it if possible and cost-effective.
- dingdongditchme 4mo ago
  https://bostondynamics.com/solutions/warehouse-automation/trailer-unloading/ https://bostondynamics.com/solutions/warehouse-automation/tr... they have a few hundred of these in operation.
- codethief 4mo ago
  For anyone not familiar with the reference: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo
groundzeros2015 4mo ago
*actual robot demos

> If you show revenue, people will ask 'HOW MUCH?' and it will never be enough. The company that was the 100xer, the 1000xer is suddenly the 2x dog. But if you have NO revenue, you can say you're pre-revenue! You're a potential pure play... It's not about how much you earn, it's about how much you're worth. And who is worth the most? Companies that lose money! Being less cynical, I do think it’s fair to say that they just didn’t quite find PMF; they aren’t good enough for factory work, Spot is niche, and Atlas is too scary for in-home. The robot butler business model just hasn’t been tested in the same way AFAIK.

insane_dreamer 4mo ago
you don't make it into the tres commas club by showing revenue
moomoo11 4mo ago
now imagine atlas with depleted uranium armor plates, 120 5.56 rounds (99.7% accuracy), and whatever specific equipment for an individual operator role spot as a ground recon unit that works with drones in the air that create 3d plan of attack instead of sending elite human and dog operators in first, a squad of 4 atlas, 2 spots, and 4 drones is deployed the human teams move in second, close behind also do people really want humanoid robots at home? that’s a lot of space
- dmix 4mo ago
  Boston dynamics already tried selling to the military but it never really panned out as a big market because their robots were very loud. Which is why they focused on enterprise niches > also do people really want humanoid robots at home? Yes, they will be everywhere IMO
- XorNot 4mo ago
  > also do people really want humanoid robots at home? The other day I was reflecting on how currently the notion of supervising AI agents sounds like my idea of hell and I'm glad I can mostly do my job without doing it. But conversely, I'd absolutely love having even 1 humanoid robot which could follow simple verbal directions like "hold this tape measure" or "raise your end a little higher" while working as a collaborative team around the house. There is an absolute ton of practical jobs where another human form is needed, but one person is pretty obviously leading the activity and just needs "another pair of hands". A pair of bots which can carry sheet rock over uneven ground around a house? Absolute game changer.
- Zigurd 4mo ago
  So you think replacing humans on the battlefield with human shaped robots...why? It makes no sense in the same way that humans on a car production line are not replaced by human shaped robots, instead by far stronger, far more capable, far faster robots designed for purpose, not mimicry. There's nothing about a battlefield that makes it a good use case for human shaped robots.
- ghaff 4mo ago
  >also do people really want humanoid robots at home? For the right price and capabilities? Sure. I pay various people to do things around the house. Replacing those people with a humanoid robot is probably a big ask. But I'd certainly consider it if possible and cost-effective.
dingdongditchme 4mo ago
https://bostondynamics.com/solutions/warehouse-automation/trailer-unloading/ https://bostondynamics.com/solutions/warehouse-automation/tr... they have a few hundred of these in operation.
codethief 4mo ago
For anyone not familiar with the reference: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo

groundzeros2015 4mo ago

*actual robot demos