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I am very confused by calling this kind of work "researches". They are not pushing the boundary of human knowledge - they are playing game (reverse engineering

by j16sdiz 4mo ago

I am very confused by calling this kind of work "researches". They are not pushing the boundary of human knowledge - they are playing game (reverse engineering) with other human.. maybe that is me having a very narrow definition of "research"

srdjanr 4mo ago
Security researcher is a common term, there's also market research which doesn't look like it falls under your definition
ReptileMan 4mo ago
Feel free to suggest a more suitable word. Research is usually defined against the the body of knowledge of the entity performing it and not all of humanity that ever lived.
- asdewqqwer 4mo ago
  Yet a published peer-reviewed research should be against humanity. I am also curious whether such research can bring knowledge that apple don't know, otherwise even it is impressive, there is a level of sadness in it from my view.
  - exe34 4mo ago
    No it's against what's published by all of humanity. So if somebody knows something and hasn't published it, someone else can still scoop them.
sabas123 4mo ago
I actually do a phd in a closely related area. Creating better tools to do research with is definitely part of the research process. While there is a lot of work in general operating systems, those aimed to specifically do a lot of microarchitectural experiments is still undiscovered ground.
IshKebab 4mo ago
Yes your definition of research is incorrect.
kwk1 4mo ago
What you are talking about is sometimes called "basic research": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_research https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_research
gosub100 4mo ago
I think I see your point: how can you "research" something that was carefully constructed by highly skilled engineers and scientists who have access to every design document, artifact, and test used to build the CPU. I don't have an answer to your question but I think you're being unfairly downvoted.

by j16sdiz 4mo ago

srdjanr 4mo ago

Security researcher is a common term, there's also market research which doesn't look like it falls under your definition

ReptileMan 4mo ago

Feel free to suggest a more suitable word. Research is usually defined against the the body of knowledge of the entity performing it and not all of humanity that ever lived.

asdewqqwer 4mo ago
Yet a published peer-reviewed research should be against humanity. I am also curious whether such research can bring knowledge that apple don't know, otherwise even it is impressive, there is a level of sadness in it from my view.
- exe34 4mo ago
  No it's against what's published by all of humanity. So if somebody knows something and hasn't published it, someone else can still scoop them.

sabas123 4mo ago

I actually do a phd in a closely related area. Creating better tools to do research with is definitely part of the research process. While there is a lot of work in general operating systems, those aimed to specifically do a lot of microarchitectural experiments is still undiscovered ground.

IshKebab 4mo ago

Yes your definition of research is incorrect.

kwk1 4mo ago

What you are talking about is sometimes called "basic research": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_research https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_research

gosub100 4mo ago

I think I see your point: how can you "research" something that was carefully constructed by highly skilled engineers and scientists who have access to every design document, artifact, and test used to build the CPU. I don't have an answer to your question but I think you're being unfairly downvoted.