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Something similar happened recently in Norway. A tourist was found severely cold in the mountains, in a storm where extracting him took hours. After a while hyp

Something similar happened recently in Norway. A tourist was found severely cold in the mountains, in a storm where extracting him took hours. After a while hypothermia got to him, his heart stopped, and only 8 hours later they got it starting again, was technically dead for 20 hours. In this case, it looks to have gone well with the person afterwards. They say you're not dead until you're warm and dead. News article https://www-nrk-no.translate.goog/vestland/nye-tal_-turgaaren-pa-hardangervidda-var-teknisk-dod-i-over-20-timar-1.17825009?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=no&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-nrk-no.translate.goog/vestland/nye-tal_-turgaare... Recount of the story https://www-nrk-no.translate.goog/vestland/xl/turgaaren-var-dod-i-over-atte-timar.-no-gar-historia-fra-hardangervidda-verda-rundt-1.17660332?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=no&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-nrk-no.translate.goog/vestland/xl/turgaaren-var-...

lukan 4mo ago
"They say you're not dead until you're warm and dead." Actual mountain rescuer slogan/wisdom.
- FireBeyond 4mo ago
  Same thing I taught my paramedic and EMT students.
  - scarecrowbob 4mo ago
    I read it two days ago in the textbook for the EMS course that I am working through right now.
dzhiurgis 4mo ago
Wonder at which point we'll start adding PLB / airtags to clothing themselves. Decent jacket already cost way more than electronics. Satellite communications approaching cost of 0. If you venturing somewhere risky - kinda makes sense to have PLB built in.
- wernerb 4mo ago
  Multipurpose too for the washer/dryer settings
  - dzhiurgis 4mo ago
    Who washes their hiking gear?
    - 0123456789ABCDE 4mo ago
      you're being facetious, but the answer to that is: folks with access to a washing machine and hiking gear
- femto 4mo ago
  Something like that exists with the RECCO system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RECCO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RECCO Not quite an arbitrary Personal Locator Beacon, but it can help rescuers home in from a distance. It's cheap because the tag is just an antenna and a diode.
internet_points 4mo ago
I was also reminded of this :) Direct link to the write-up of the previous such record: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0196064418312782 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01960...
xattt 4mo ago
Interesting to see that he was actively worked on for hours and hours. This is a very dedicated team, with significant awareness of hypothermia recovery. It wouldn’t as much as an internist with too long of a day to call it after the third code.
- throwup238 4mo ago
  They had told the transport team not to rewarm him during the 70 minute flight, so there was no chance of him getting some “internist”. The hospital was fully prepared for the patient, which is why they survived.
Qem 4mo ago
I wonder if such cases are a gift from our Neanderthal forebears, from the few % of Neanderthal DNA that still lingers in most humans alive today. They spent hundreds of thousands of years amidst ice age glaciers, what are the odds they developed the ability to hibernate? It would be a good explanation on how H. Sapiens Sapiens took over later. They couldn't defend their shelters while in torpor.
vorticalbox 4mo ago
> This happened after he received CPR for several hours at a cabin on the Hardangervidda plateau before rescue arrived. This means although his heart wasn’t technically beating, he did have blood being circulated via cpr. When I read the title I assumed he was alone before rescuing.

lukan 4mo ago

"They say you're not dead until you're warm and dead." Actual mountain rescuer slogan/wisdom.

FireBeyond 4mo ago
Same thing I taught my paramedic and EMT students.
- scarecrowbob 4mo ago
  I read it two days ago in the textbook for the EMS course that I am working through right now.

dzhiurgis 4mo ago

Wonder at which point we'll start adding PLB / airtags to clothing themselves. Decent jacket already cost way more than electronics. Satellite communications approaching cost of 0. If you venturing somewhere risky - kinda makes sense to have PLB built in.

wernerb 4mo ago
Multipurpose too for the washer/dryer settings
- dzhiurgis 4mo ago
  Who washes their hiking gear?
  - 0123456789ABCDE 4mo ago
    you're being facetious, but the answer to that is: folks with access to a washing machine and hiking gear
femto 4mo ago
Something like that exists with the RECCO system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RECCO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RECCO Not quite an arbitrary Personal Locator Beacon, but it can help rescuers home in from a distance. It's cheap because the tag is just an antenna and a diode.

internet_points 4mo ago

I was also reminded of this :) Direct link to the write-up of the previous such record: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0196064418312782 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01960...

xattt 4mo ago

Interesting to see that he was actively worked on for hours and hours. This is a very dedicated team, with significant awareness of hypothermia recovery. It wouldn’t as much as an internist with too long of a day to call it after the third code.

throwup238 4mo ago
They had told the transport team not to rewarm him during the 70 minute flight, so there was no chance of him getting some “internist”. The hospital was fully prepared for the patient, which is why they survived.

Qem 4mo ago

I wonder if such cases are a gift from our Neanderthal forebears, from the few % of Neanderthal DNA that still lingers in most humans alive today. They spent hundreds of thousands of years amidst ice age glaciers, what are the odds they developed the ability to hibernate? It would be a good explanation on how H. Sapiens Sapiens took over later. They couldn't defend their shelters while in torpor.

vorticalbox 4mo ago

> This happened after he received CPR for several hours at a cabin on the Hardangervidda plateau before rescue arrived. This means although his heart wasn’t technically beating, he did have blood being circulated via cpr. When I read the title I assumed he was alone before rescuing.