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They're probably going to ban GPU exports to China. Which will of course accelerate the development of their own GPUs. More products for us.
by matheusmoreira 5mo ago
They're probably going to ban GPU exports to China. Which will of course accelerate the development of their own GPUs. More products for us.
- mtoner23 5mo agotrump just undid the gpu export to china to help jensen make money
- embedding-shape 5mo agoOh, that's great, finally they put that cat back in the bag, surely it can never escape. Gonna be interesting to see how the ecosystem looks like 2-3 years, I'd be expecting some drastic changes compared to today.
- frm88 5mo ago3 days ago the deal was still on https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/trumps-china-nvidia-dealing-threatens-doj-chip-smuggling-trial https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/trumps-china-nvidi...
- azinman2 5mo agoChina is already going as hard as they can on their own GPUs. When has availability of non-Chinese tech in China meant China didn't ultimately come up with homegrown replacements?
- matheusmoreira 5mo agoIt's just my general impression. They banned China from the ISS, China made their own space station. China's making their own x86 chips, their own GPUs. As a fellow wheel reinventer, I admire their audacity. It's the sort of thing that makes me wish my country was like China.
- _carbyau_ 5mo ago> makes me wish my country was like China I admire their governance ability to have long term plans. The sheer scale of their production ambitions in so many fields and their energy build out is insane. The fact those plans also have subclauses ensuring the party elite are made even more wealthy and powerful is less alluring.
- r14c 5mo ago> The fact those plans also have subclauses ensuring the party elite are made even more wealthy and powerful is less alluring Our oligarchs do that too and all we get in return is declining infrastructure and paranoia.
- deaux 5mo agoClassic case of getting downvoted solely because it's a negative comparison to China. The letter for letter exact same comment in a thread only about the US on here, that doesn't mention China, would get upvoted. You are, of course, right. All of the downsides with none of the benefits.
- joe_mamba 5mo ago>The fact those plans also have subclauses ensuring the party elite are made even more wealthy and powerful is less alluring. In which major democratic western country don't the elites get wealthier? In fact, the top 10% asset owners saw the biggest post-covid recovery, which the rest stagnated or are in decline. Not defending China but are own oligarchs are just as savvy at enriching themselves while screwing us over.
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- vintermann 5mo agoWell, it's not as if there's not an elite enriching and entrenching themselves here either. Reading about Thiel's "Dialog" meeting, I wonder, do China have their own equivalent of such blatant corruption meetings? Even if they do, do they discuss "compliance collars" for the security guards in those meetings? I have a feeling they don't. The future the Chinese elite wants to own, at least seems to include us as something other than a zombie army at the gates of their post apocalyptic bunkers. That's a low bar I know, and not much to be hopeful about, but our elites aren't even meeting it.
- fc417fc802 5mo agoThey greatly increased efforts when the US restricted high end exports to them. Unless further restrictions accomplish something worthwhile in the short term they seem unlikely to be of benefit to the US.
- kordlessagain 5mo agoI saw they have the ASML-type lasers working but are a ways out on getting it to print.
- khalic 5mo agowe said the same thing about their home grown GPU datacenter, and look at them now, with multiple facilities 10 years sooner then we thought possible.
- karunamurti 5mo agoChina already produced their first graphic card that got Microsoft WHQL certification. Is it competitive enough? Probably no. Is there a software ecosystem for Chinese hardware yet? Probably no. But you know it will come soon.