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Agentic coding deserves more than a chat box bolted onto VS Code

95 points by evanklem2004 4mo ago

evanklem2004 4mo ago
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devin 4mo ago
It would appear that the author of this posted a big pile of AI slop describing project and was heavily downvoted.
- evanklem2004 4mo ago
  You are being a Devin downer.
grim_io 4mo ago
This might be one of the strangest product video editing decisions I've seen.
- evanjrowley 4mo ago
  Has there ever been an IDE demo video with better music?
  - tomjakubowski 4mo ago
    The intro to Erlang: The Movie has a pretty boss anthem. (if you squint, Erlang/OTP is kind of an IDE, when you live in the REPL) https://youtu.be/xrIjfIjssLE https://youtu.be/xrIjfIjssLE
    - sublinear 4mo ago
      That video is the perfect amount of awkward. I love it.
      - theendisney 4mo ago
        10x productiviteit!
  - evanklem2004 4mo ago
    It's actually an original piece of music that I custom made for the demo so I am glad you liked it : )
- leecommamichael 4mo ago
  Yeah, it has me wondering why this project is trying to entertain me with a video.
- bad_username 4mo ago
  It is strange which is why it is great. So refreshing to not see another instance of corporate videoslop.
- jaan 4mo ago
  Haven’t commented in years but I came to say this is an incredible video. I think the uncanny valley of this video as a makeshift 90s infomercial captures the audience and sells the product! Caveat: vaporwave is one of my favorite genres so take this with a grain of salt.
  - evanklem2004 4mo ago
    I am very glad you enjoyed it. I am definitely a fan of uncanny valley vibes too, maybe that Backrooms movie subconsciously influenced me when I made the demo. With all of my open source projects I try to have as much fun with it as possible and I definitely had fun making that video.
antonvs 4mo ago
> Agentic coding deserves more than a chat box bolted onto VS Code So, Antigravity 2.0 then?
- rzzzt 4mo ago
  Cursor 3 as well.
- lostmsu 4mo ago
  Antigravity 2.0 looks exactly like codexia (as of 0.26, I forked it)
blitzar 4mo ago
if someone would give me 60bn to put a chatbox in vscode I would happily do it
- ai_slop_hater 4mo ago
  don't forget to fork and rename a chinese llm
kylemaxwell 4mo ago
Is this just a vibe-coded IDE? The tagline "Modular IDE designed for agentic coding" and description don't really summarize what this does differently, and I'm not looking at a video to figure that out.
- zby 4mo ago
  The video seems to be about mushrooms.
  - embedding-shape 4mo ago
    The "have it your way" made me think about hamburgers, can't remember how/why though.
    - adamsiem 4mo ago
      Burger King: https://youtu.be/KJXzkUH72cY https://youtu.be/KJXzkUH72cY
  - SequoiaHope 4mo ago
    Something I’ve realized lately is that AI makes some things so easy (like video generation) that you’re not required to do the hard work of planning and reflection that might occur with a more involved task. We’ve always been susceptible to rushed thinking but AI compounds this significantly.
- kordlessagain 4mo ago
  [flagged]
- cute_boi 4mo ago
  Yes, 90% of software in HN main page these days are vibe coded slop that no one uses.
deleted 4mo ago
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injidup 4mo ago
Ummmmm. https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/agents/agents-window https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/agents/agents-window
hootz 4mo ago
So the defaults are Codex and Claude? I use neither.
- evanklem2004 4mo ago
  Codex and Claude are the defaults for now but it is built to use any CLI of your choice via the terminal.
avree 4mo ago
Like with most full products that are vibecoded, there's very little to no originality in this - just strange packaging of things that already exist.
- ch4s3 4mo ago
  Repackaging of existing concepts is kind of just what a lot of new tech products are, right?
  - ASalazarMX 4mo ago
    But the ones that repackage as part of improvement are the ones that usually stick. Repackaging as a lesser product only works if your brand strength is being cheap.
    - ch4s3 4mo ago
      no argument there.
prashar32 4mo ago
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at-fates-hands 4mo ago
Am I the only one who is getting tired of all the AI stuff in VS Code? I just want to open my ide and not be greeted by a dozen AI prompts begging to have it code something for me. Its such a distraction. I want less of this stuff not more of it.
- duskdozer 4mo ago
  https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium
- evanklem2004 4mo ago
  It sounds like the sweet call of Vim is beckoning you.
mccoyb 4mo ago
The mushroom product video gave me a good laugh. Thank you!
theplumber 4mo ago
Ok, I am sold on this. I give you 60 billion!
joshka 4mo ago
Just show me a screenshot please
ricardobeat 4mo ago
Product looks awesome, please take the time to write a human-made README.
mcscxv 4mo ago
I just need shells — no IDE integration whatsoever. I work across several large codebases in Xcode, Android Studio, and Visual Studio, and I don't want anything wired into them; I just want shells running alongside, exactly like git. Forced docked windows here and there don't help. The best thing about Codex and Claude Code is that I can spin up as many shells as I want and work on as many bugs and features as I can handle in parallel.
jreynar 4mo ago
I couldn't even get the video to play. Nonetheless I'm sort of meta excited by this product. It reminds me of the apocryphal "customers want a faster horse" thing associated with Henry Ford. Chat bolted onto an IDE was a great starting point, but if AI is writing the code, do even need an IDE? This doesn't go that far but it sounds wacky enough that it least it's trying to break out of the IDE mold. Not idea what we need instead of an IDE but if an IDE with chat is a faster horse then I'm really curious what the car looks like. Is it just reviewing UI? Even that seems like a short term solution since I'm not sure how long code reviewing will be around as agents get better at it and it might make more sense to do fractional launches and gather data than spend precious human time looking for a bug/needle in a diff / haystack...
- evanklem2004 4mo ago
  Sorry about the video bug, Github's manual on file attachments mentions video codecs being browser specific. I will be sure to use the most widely supported codec in the next update. I definitely relate to a lot of your thinking here, I feel like it will just take a handful of years of experimenting with these new tools to settle on what really works. That was part of my rationale for making it more modular, as I continue to learn and grow with the tooling I can easily update my IDE to be super personalized.

95 points by evanklem2004 4mo ago

evanklem2004 4mo ago

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devin 4mo ago

It would appear that the author of this posted a big pile of AI slop describing project and was heavily downvoted.

evanklem2004 4mo ago
You are being a Devin downer.

grim_io 4mo ago

This might be one of the strangest product video editing decisions I've seen.

evanjrowley 4mo ago
Has there ever been an IDE demo video with better music?
- tomjakubowski 4mo ago
  The intro to Erlang: The Movie has a pretty boss anthem. (if you squint, Erlang/OTP is kind of an IDE, when you live in the REPL) https://youtu.be/xrIjfIjssLE https://youtu.be/xrIjfIjssLE
  - sublinear 4mo ago
    That video is the perfect amount of awkward. I love it.
    - theendisney 4mo ago
      10x productiviteit!
- evanklem2004 4mo ago
  It's actually an original piece of music that I custom made for the demo so I am glad you liked it : )
leecommamichael 4mo ago
Yeah, it has me wondering why this project is trying to entertain me with a video.
bad_username 4mo ago
It is strange which is why it is great. So refreshing to not see another instance of corporate videoslop.
jaan 4mo ago
Haven’t commented in years but I came to say this is an incredible video. I think the uncanny valley of this video as a makeshift 90s infomercial captures the audience and sells the product! Caveat: vaporwave is one of my favorite genres so take this with a grain of salt.
- evanklem2004 4mo ago
  I am very glad you enjoyed it. I am definitely a fan of uncanny valley vibes too, maybe that Backrooms movie subconsciously influenced me when I made the demo. With all of my open source projects I try to have as much fun with it as possible and I definitely had fun making that video.

antonvs 4mo ago

> Agentic coding deserves more than a chat box bolted onto VS Code So, Antigravity 2.0 then?

rzzzt 4mo ago
Cursor 3 as well.
lostmsu 4mo ago
Antigravity 2.0 looks exactly like codexia (as of 0.26, I forked it)

blitzar 4mo ago

if someone would give me 60bn to put a chatbox in vscode I would happily do it

ai_slop_hater 4mo ago
don't forget to fork and rename a chinese llm

kylemaxwell 4mo ago

Is this just a vibe-coded IDE? The tagline "Modular IDE designed for agentic coding" and description don't really summarize what this does differently, and I'm not looking at a video to figure that out.

zby 4mo ago
The video seems to be about mushrooms.
- embedding-shape 4mo ago
  The "have it your way" made me think about hamburgers, can't remember how/why though.
  - adamsiem 4mo ago
    Burger King: https://youtu.be/KJXzkUH72cY https://youtu.be/KJXzkUH72cY
- SequoiaHope 4mo ago
  Something I’ve realized lately is that AI makes some things so easy (like video generation) that you’re not required to do the hard work of planning and reflection that might occur with a more involved task. We’ve always been susceptible to rushed thinking but AI compounds this significantly.
kordlessagain 4mo ago
[flagged]
cute_boi 4mo ago
Yes, 90% of software in HN main page these days are vibe coded slop that no one uses.

deleted 4mo ago

[deleted]

injidup 4mo ago

Ummmmm. https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/agents/agents-window https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/agents/agents-window

hootz 4mo ago

So the defaults are Codex and Claude? I use neither.

evanklem2004 4mo ago
Codex and Claude are the defaults for now but it is built to use any CLI of your choice via the terminal.

avree 4mo ago

Like with most full products that are vibecoded, there's very little to no originality in this - just strange packaging of things that already exist.

ch4s3 4mo ago
Repackaging of existing concepts is kind of just what a lot of new tech products are, right?
- ASalazarMX 4mo ago
  But the ones that repackage as part of improvement are the ones that usually stick. Repackaging as a lesser product only works if your brand strength is being cheap.
  - ch4s3 4mo ago
    no argument there.

prashar32 4mo ago

[flagged]

at-fates-hands 4mo ago

Am I the only one who is getting tired of all the AI stuff in VS Code? I just want to open my ide and not be greeted by a dozen AI prompts begging to have it code something for me. Its such a distraction. I want less of this stuff not more of it.

duskdozer 4mo ago
https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium
evanklem2004 4mo ago
It sounds like the sweet call of Vim is beckoning you.

mccoyb 4mo ago

The mushroom product video gave me a good laugh. Thank you!

theplumber 4mo ago

Ok, I am sold on this. I give you 60 billion!

joshka 4mo ago

Just show me a screenshot please

ricardobeat 4mo ago

Product looks awesome, please take the time to write a human-made README.

mcscxv 4mo ago

I just need shells — no IDE integration whatsoever. I work across several large codebases in Xcode, Android Studio, and Visual Studio, and I don't want anything wired into them; I just want shells running alongside, exactly like git. Forced docked windows here and there don't help. The best thing about Codex and Claude Code is that I can spin up as many shells as I want and work on as many bugs and features as I can handle in parallel.

jreynar 4mo ago

I couldn't even get the video to play. Nonetheless I'm sort of meta excited by this product. It reminds me of the apocryphal "customers want a faster horse" thing associated with Henry Ford. Chat bolted onto an IDE was a great starting point, but if AI is writing the code, do even need an IDE? This doesn't go that far but it sounds wacky enough that it least it's trying to break out of the IDE mold. Not idea what we need instead of an IDE but if an IDE with chat is a faster horse then I'm really curious what the car looks like. Is it just reviewing UI? Even that seems like a short term solution since I'm not sure how long code reviewing will be around as agents get better at it and it might make more sense to do fractional launches and gather data than spend precious human time looking for a bug/needle in a diff / haystack...

evanklem2004 4mo ago
Sorry about the video bug, Github's manual on file attachments mentions video codecs being browser specific. I will be sure to use the most widely supported codec in the next update. I definitely relate to a lot of your thinking here, I feel like it will just take a handful of years of experimenting with these new tools to settle on what really works. That was part of my rationale for making it more modular, as I continue to learn and grow with the tooling I can easily update my IDE to be super personalized.