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Seems like there's a few android equivalents: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.panshen.motioncure&hl=en_US https://play.google.com/store/apps/

Seems like there's a few android equivalents: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.panshen.motioncure&hl=en_US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.panshen.mo... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.kinestop https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid... And even one that claims to work with sound: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.a100hz&hl=en_US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.a1... EDIT: Actually there's an enormous number of apps like this, many released very recently with similar style etc. Weird.

Pfhortune 4mo ago
If you're like me and want an open or non-google-play alternative to these, this is available on F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/dev.davidv.motionsickness/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/dev.davidv.motionsickness/ I can't vouch for it (yet) but am going to give it a try!
- jlv2 4mo ago
  This one works well. Small, simple, no ads, open source.
  - IshKebab 4mo ago
    It does have weird jumps if you tilt your phone though. Something's not quite right with its algorithm.
jerlam 4mo ago
It's been rumored that Google would build it into Android for years: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-motion-cues-pixels-new-name-apk-teardown-3623023/ https://www.androidauthority.com/google-motion-cues-pixels-n... I've tried some of those Android equivalents and they seemed to work on any motion, not on acceleration like the Apple one.
- thejokeisonme 4mo ago
  That's physically impossible.
  - usef- 4mo ago
    I think what he means is that the iPhone dots seem to move based on vehicle acceleration and deceleration, whereas the android ones use all phone motion. If I move my iPhone around in my hands the dots don't move, but on my android they do (ie are simulating a stable horizon as the phone tilts, immediately). I don't know which is more effective. I thought the iPhone one was broken at first and didn't have the best results from it, I'm hoping the less-subtle android ones will work better for me. Edit: I read from the docs that Apple's works best when facing forward, and I was often sitting sideways on a train
    - lucb1e 4mo ago
      That's strange, any idea how it could be able to differentiate? My only guess is some sort of processing, like wait and see if it follows the expected acceleration pattern (moderate initial acceleration from the unexpected-to-the-user car motion, followed by a stronger acceleration in the same direction as one's hands push the phone to keep it in the same visual place) but I'd assume such lag is precisely the issue VR etc. has and makes people extra sick. By the time you've counteracted it, your brain has clearly registered that the movement is disjointed from the visual input, so then it's too late for them dots to help right?! That couldn't possibly work (or could it). Very curious how this works. Like, surely it doesn't need to be connected to a compatible car? Edit: wait, or the camera. That would be very battery-intensive (I guess theoretically it could turn on only 1% of 1 color channel on the sensor, but I'm not aware that this is a mode that the hardware/firmware supports), but when you move it yourself, then the camera would see motion in the opposite direction as when you're unexpectedly being moved such as in a car. Still seems unlikely
      - twobitshifter 4mo ago
        It works in a plane, so it’s somehow able to detect the higher rate of speed, maybe by integrating, but I think it does use signals from CarPlay as well.
ramraj07 4mo ago
Be careful with these apps. The permissions they ask for are quite expansive.
- sowbug 4mo ago
  You're correct, but there's a good reason: they need to draw over other apps to do what they do. So it's not necessarily nefarious. But it is an excellent reason to build the functionality into the OS. (The reason the permission is so dangerous is they can trick you into pressing the wrong button by relabeling dangerous text with innocuous text.)
  - advisedwang 4mo ago
    The presence of a good reason is exactly why you have to be so careful. Creating an app with a legitimate reason to request permission, only to also abuse it, is a great strategy for an attacker.
- Cider9986 4mo ago
  Absolutely, which is why I really appreciate the network permission on GrapheneOS. It makes me more comfortable to allow other permissions knowing no data can be exfiltrated.
  - Groxx 4mo ago
    It's wild to me that "internet access" is not revokable or even displayed in the Play Store in stock Android. It's such a huge security and privacy concern, even if most apps semi-legitimately need it. Or, it would be wild, if it weren't fairly obvious that this is just Google protecting their mobile ad revenue.
    - AndriyKunitsyn 4mo ago
      There's basically zero apps without some sort of analytics nowadays.
Cider9986 4mo ago
I've found Kinestop to be much more effective and immediate than Apple's, highly recommend.
- sunaookami 4mo ago
  Same, +1 for KineStop.
captainbland 4mo ago
Tried the first one and it doesn't seem to work (dots don't respond to motion), and is absolutely riddled with intrusive ads. The one that another commenter left which is on F-droid is much better
linzhangrun 4mo ago
I found my Xiaomi 13 (Hyper OS 3) also has this feature.
jofzar 4mo ago
> EDIT: Actually there's an enormous number of apps like this, many released very recently with similar style etc. Weird. It's mostly just Devs copying apples feature, nothing too weird about it
- kraf 4mo ago
  You may be wrong here and Apple seems to be the one copying the feature. Someone mentioned KineStop in this thread and that's been around since 2018.
LorenPechtel 4mo ago
Read the reviews on that first one. They seem to have gone over to the dark side.

Pfhortune 4mo ago

If you're like me and want an open or non-google-play alternative to these, this is available on F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/dev.davidv.motionsickness/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/dev.davidv.motionsickness/ I can't vouch for it (yet) but am going to give it a try!

jlv2 4mo ago
This one works well. Small, simple, no ads, open source.
- IshKebab 4mo ago
  It does have weird jumps if you tilt your phone though. Something's not quite right with its algorithm.

jerlam 4mo ago

It's been rumored that Google would build it into Android for years: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-motion-cues-pixels-new-name-apk-teardown-3623023/ https://www.androidauthority.com/google-motion-cues-pixels-n... I've tried some of those Android equivalents and they seemed to work on any motion, not on acceleration like the Apple one.

thejokeisonme 4mo ago
That's physically impossible.
- usef- 4mo ago
  I think what he means is that the iPhone dots seem to move based on vehicle acceleration and deceleration, whereas the android ones use all phone motion. If I move my iPhone around in my hands the dots don't move, but on my android they do (ie are simulating a stable horizon as the phone tilts, immediately). I don't know which is more effective. I thought the iPhone one was broken at first and didn't have the best results from it, I'm hoping the less-subtle android ones will work better for me. Edit: I read from the docs that Apple's works best when facing forward, and I was often sitting sideways on a train
  - lucb1e 4mo ago
    That's strange, any idea how it could be able to differentiate? My only guess is some sort of processing, like wait and see if it follows the expected acceleration pattern (moderate initial acceleration from the unexpected-to-the-user car motion, followed by a stronger acceleration in the same direction as one's hands push the phone to keep it in the same visual place) but I'd assume such lag is precisely the issue VR etc. has and makes people extra sick. By the time you've counteracted it, your brain has clearly registered that the movement is disjointed from the visual input, so then it's too late for them dots to help right?! That couldn't possibly work (or could it). Very curious how this works. Like, surely it doesn't need to be connected to a compatible car? Edit: wait, or the camera. That would be very battery-intensive (I guess theoretically it could turn on only 1% of 1 color channel on the sensor, but I'm not aware that this is a mode that the hardware/firmware supports), but when you move it yourself, then the camera would see motion in the opposite direction as when you're unexpectedly being moved such as in a car. Still seems unlikely
    - twobitshifter 4mo ago
      It works in a plane, so it’s somehow able to detect the higher rate of speed, maybe by integrating, but I think it does use signals from CarPlay as well.

ramraj07 4mo ago

Be careful with these apps. The permissions they ask for are quite expansive.

sowbug 4mo ago
You're correct, but there's a good reason: they need to draw over other apps to do what they do. So it's not necessarily nefarious. But it is an excellent reason to build the functionality into the OS. (The reason the permission is so dangerous is they can trick you into pressing the wrong button by relabeling dangerous text with innocuous text.)
- advisedwang 4mo ago
  The presence of a good reason is exactly why you have to be so careful. Creating an app with a legitimate reason to request permission, only to also abuse it, is a great strategy for an attacker.
Cider9986 4mo ago
Absolutely, which is why I really appreciate the network permission on GrapheneOS. It makes me more comfortable to allow other permissions knowing no data can be exfiltrated.
- Groxx 4mo ago
  It's wild to me that "internet access" is not revokable or even displayed in the Play Store in stock Android. It's such a huge security and privacy concern, even if most apps semi-legitimately need it. Or, it would be wild, if it weren't fairly obvious that this is just Google protecting their mobile ad revenue.
  - AndriyKunitsyn 4mo ago
    There's basically zero apps without some sort of analytics nowadays.

Cider9986 4mo ago

I've found Kinestop to be much more effective and immediate than Apple's, highly recommend.

sunaookami 4mo ago
Same, +1 for KineStop.

captainbland 4mo ago

Tried the first one and it doesn't seem to work (dots don't respond to motion), and is absolutely riddled with intrusive ads. The one that another commenter left which is on F-droid is much better

linzhangrun 4mo ago

I found my Xiaomi 13 (Hyper OS 3) also has this feature.

jofzar 4mo ago

> EDIT: Actually there's an enormous number of apps like this, many released very recently with similar style etc. Weird. It's mostly just Devs copying apples feature, nothing too weird about it

kraf 4mo ago
You may be wrong here and Apple seems to be the one copying the feature. Someone mentioned KineStop in this thread and that's been around since 2018.

LorenPechtel 4mo ago

Read the reviews on that first one. They seem to have gone over to the dark side.