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So now the same corporation that owns Fox News is going to own Roku? No thanks. Guess it's finally time to switch to a custom Android TV box or Apple TV. Or rol

So now the same corporation that owns Fox News is going to own Roku? No thanks. Guess it's finally time to switch to a custom Android TV box or Apple TV. Or roll my own, but I've tried that and found it pretty difficult.

IshKebab 4mo ago
> Or roll my own, but I've tried that and found it pretty difficult. I agree, there seem to be no good options for this. You can use Kodi or whatever, but I want something that supports playing my ... totally legally acquired content... and Netflix/Disney/iPlayer/etc. In a package that's silent and low power. Doesn't seem to exist unfortunately. I guess the closest is Nvidia Shield. You can apparently still sideload APKs onto that... for now. I'll buy one when they release an update. I'm patient!
- presbyterian 4mo ago
  If you’re already DIYing, set up a Jellyfin server and then any of the streaming boxes will work.
  - pickleglitch 4mo ago
    Jellyfin is great, but it is solving a different problem entirely.
    - presbyterian 4mo ago
      Not really. The person I'm replying to wants to watch streaming services and their own files. Grab any streaming box that supports the services, and it almost certainly has a Jellyfin app or a compatible one. Problem solved.
- NetMageSCW 4mo ago
  Apple TV.
  - IshKebab 4mo ago
    Fine for Netflix etc. but it's not going to let you run bittorrent or whatever without a lot of pain.
- CrimsonCape 4mo ago
  Yeah, this space seems pretty sparse. Some of the Radxa SBCs are getting closer to a hardware solution for your vision, but there isn't real mainstream software. A self-hosted DNLA server is probably the most realistic option but DNLA has seemed to fall by the wayside in favor of paid streaming and plex/jellyfin. That said, Tailscale did not exist when DNLA was popular, and DNLA over Tailscale seems a really promising non-jellyfin avenue. Ultimately the problem will be lack of hardware decoders and poor interop with Dolby, DTS, etc. https://bret.dk/radxa-dragon-q8b-a-laptop-cosplaying-as-an-sbc/ https://bret.dk/radxa-dragon-q8b-a-laptop-cosplaying-as-an-s...
  - IshKebab 4mo ago
    I think the problem is that legit apps like Netflix are super restrictive about what they'll run on. Even if you just do it through a browser you need to be using Chrome on Windows or whatever or they'll restrict you to 720p.
newaccountman2 4mo ago
I would not recommend Apple TV. I like the computers and the phone, but the TV is disappoint. Would recommend Nvidia Shield or something. What I am going to do down the line personally is just buy a gaming laptop and use that. Can play games via Steam and watch stuff via Windows apps (e.g. Netflix, Amazon Prime, Crunchyroll). Only problem of course is the laptop will be pricier, but if someone was going to buy a tv streaming thing AND a gaming system of some kind, probably cheaper.
- pickleglitch 4mo ago
  I like the laptop idea, I'd go with Linux instead of Windows, and even then I think it would be a challenge to get it working well with a remote. Nvidia Shield is just Android TV, which means handing Google all your data. Of course, Apple TV means handing Apple all your data, but that seems like maybe the least bad option. I don't know, I'm just tired of all of this shit.
  - newaccountman2 4mo ago
    I feel like remote can be convenient, but that I could get by with bluetooth keyboard with a built-in trackpad. I wonder if it would be possible to operate the computer as a whole with PS5 controller :thinking:
- iwhalen 4mo ago
  If you already have a gaming desktop, I can recommend Shield for both. Streaming services work out of the box of course. Then I use Sunshine[1] on my desktop to stream to Moonlight on the Shield. Both have wired ethernet connections. Latency is not noticeable in most cases. [1]: https://app.lizardbyte.dev/Sunshine/ https://app.lizardbyte.dev/Sunshine/
  - newaccountman2 4mo ago
    Nah, gave my desktop to my sister :e
- mplanchard 4mo ago
giancarlostoro 4mo ago
They already own Tubi (think Hulu alternative) which I've used when literally no other streaming service had what I was looking for, and is surprisingly decent. I assume this is the beginning of their leap into streaming, wont be surprised if there's other acquisitions that will take place in similar spaces. Personally I never bought into Roku because I didn't think they'd last very long.

IshKebab 4mo ago

> Or roll my own, but I've tried that and found it pretty difficult. I agree, there seem to be no good options for this. You can use Kodi or whatever, but I want something that supports playing my ... totally legally acquired content... and Netflix/Disney/iPlayer/etc. In a package that's silent and low power. Doesn't seem to exist unfortunately. I guess the closest is Nvidia Shield. You can apparently still sideload APKs onto that... for now. I'll buy one when they release an update. I'm patient!

presbyterian 4mo ago
If you’re already DIYing, set up a Jellyfin server and then any of the streaming boxes will work.
- pickleglitch 4mo ago
  Jellyfin is great, but it is solving a different problem entirely.
  - presbyterian 4mo ago
    Not really. The person I'm replying to wants to watch streaming services and their own files. Grab any streaming box that supports the services, and it almost certainly has a Jellyfin app or a compatible one. Problem solved.
NetMageSCW 4mo ago
Apple TV.
- IshKebab 4mo ago
  Fine for Netflix etc. but it's not going to let you run bittorrent or whatever without a lot of pain.
CrimsonCape 4mo ago
Yeah, this space seems pretty sparse. Some of the Radxa SBCs are getting closer to a hardware solution for your vision, but there isn't real mainstream software. A self-hosted DNLA server is probably the most realistic option but DNLA has seemed to fall by the wayside in favor of paid streaming and plex/jellyfin. That said, Tailscale did not exist when DNLA was popular, and DNLA over Tailscale seems a really promising non-jellyfin avenue. Ultimately the problem will be lack of hardware decoders and poor interop with Dolby, DTS, etc. https://bret.dk/radxa-dragon-q8b-a-laptop-cosplaying-as-an-sbc/ https://bret.dk/radxa-dragon-q8b-a-laptop-cosplaying-as-an-s...
- IshKebab 4mo ago
  I think the problem is that legit apps like Netflix are super restrictive about what they'll run on. Even if you just do it through a browser you need to be using Chrome on Windows or whatever or they'll restrict you to 720p.

newaccountman2 4mo ago

I would not recommend Apple TV. I like the computers and the phone, but the TV is disappoint. Would recommend Nvidia Shield or something. What I am going to do down the line personally is just buy a gaming laptop and use that. Can play games via Steam and watch stuff via Windows apps (e.g. Netflix, Amazon Prime, Crunchyroll). Only problem of course is the laptop will be pricier, but if someone was going to buy a tv streaming thing AND a gaming system of some kind, probably cheaper.

pickleglitch 4mo ago
I like the laptop idea, I'd go with Linux instead of Windows, and even then I think it would be a challenge to get it working well with a remote. Nvidia Shield is just Android TV, which means handing Google all your data. Of course, Apple TV means handing Apple all your data, but that seems like maybe the least bad option. I don't know, I'm just tired of all of this shit.
- newaccountman2 4mo ago
  I feel like remote can be convenient, but that I could get by with bluetooth keyboard with a built-in trackpad. I wonder if it would be possible to operate the computer as a whole with PS5 controller :thinking:
iwhalen 4mo ago
If you already have a gaming desktop, I can recommend Shield for both. Streaming services work out of the box of course. Then I use Sunshine[1] on my desktop to stream to Moonlight on the Shield. Both have wired ethernet connections. Latency is not noticeable in most cases. [1]: https://app.lizardbyte.dev/Sunshine/ https://app.lizardbyte.dev/Sunshine/
- newaccountman2 4mo ago
  Nah, gave my desktop to my sister :e
mplanchard 4mo ago

giancarlostoro 4mo ago

They already own Tubi (think Hulu alternative) which I've used when literally no other streaming service had what I was looking for, and is surprisingly decent. I assume this is the beginning of their leap into streaming, wont be surprised if there's other acquisitions that will take place in similar spaces. Personally I never bought into Roku because I didn't think they'd last very long.