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How is this Apple keeping control of the UX?

• matwood 4mo ago
  The betas of the next OS's include a Siri AI chatbot, and the AI features are built into various parts of the OS. A user has no idea what model is powering any of it - Apple controls the UX.
  • klausa 4mo ago
    I'm aware. How is this relevant to the posted article?
    • embedding-shape 4mo ago
      The article is about (from the eyes of a user) white-labeled usage of Claude models on Apple devices, this subthread is about white-labeled usage of LLMs on Apple devices, how is it not relevant?
      • klausa 4mo ago
        Because that's not what the article is about; this is about a unified API for the _app developers_ to access different kind of models. That API has no user-facing components, and has no influence over UX of what the end-users are interacting with. The users won't know if you used Foundation Models API or integrated with OpenAI/Anthropic/Gemini SDK directly.
        • embedding-shape 4mo ago
          > The users won't know if you used Foundation Models API or integrated with OpenAI/Anthropic/Gemini SDK directly. That's the point! That's the whole "white-labeling" part, and what the commentator earlier is talking about. You're very close in understanding the context here!
          • klausa 4mo ago
            I’m sorry, so your position now is that “being completely invisible to the users” is “controlling the UX”?
            • embedding-shape 4mo ago
              I think you're taking the written words a bit too literally here. Read it with a more lax filter and less literal word-meaning, and I think the original comment will become a bit clearer.
              • klausa 4mo ago
                You know what, I've been a bit too snipe-y in my previous comments, and it led to to discussion devolving in unproductive ways. I'd genuinely like to understand where you're coming from more. I think we're all in agreement that this framework is very much about letting developers swap the models easily, and treat them as commodities. That seems pretty obvious. I do however still don't see how this has anything to do with controlling the UX (or the new Siri for that matter! The new Siri doesn't use Anthropic models, and there are no extensions point for it to do so — that's pretty much the whole reason why it won't be available in the EU). Help me see your point of view!
                • geodel 4mo ago
                  I don't know if it helps. One way to look at it is branding product. Apple is branding the product. So they supposedly have more value to customers as it stands for quality, awareness, trust etc. As oppose to 100 little components in computer which maybe from different brands, and Apple may switch brand year to year without user noticing. So those components makers have little power over Apple. Same is happening to Claude software package as it would stand behind branded Apple foundation models. From pure software developer thinking this is exactly what Claude offered here so where is the issue? Issue is in larger space where Apple could take steps to block Claude out of their ecosystem if they so wish at some point and there is little Claude / Anthropic would do if Apple Foundation is the only thing that Apple consumers would know about.
  • mr_toad 4mo ago
    I’ll be curious to see if they make the models accessible to Shortcuts, like they do with the current models.