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Yet they use it, they do not really care, they even install Windows games that requires kernel level spyware read anti-cheat. There are Linux distros that are

Yet they use it, they do not really care, they even install Windows games that requires kernel level spyware read anti-cheat. There are Linux distros that are newbie friendly and looks like Windows. An end user that does not depend on Adobe, if you are still using that for whatever reason, they have no excuse to don't move to Linux distro OS.

Cider9986 4mo ago
People don't know about the stuff you're describing. They use the OS that comes with their PC or is the one everyone else uses.
- Neywiny 4mo ago
  ^^^^^ https://xkcd.com/2501/ https://xkcd.com/2501/ Just like how Linus from LTT (just trust me bro on the source) said one day he needed a tool (hammer?) so he walked into the hardware store, found what looked like a hammer, and bought it. End of journey. And then he finally realized how a regular person buys tech. Most people do not care, do not know they should care, and do not care enough to know if they should care enough.
  - wincy 4mo ago
    Yeah but they could have gotten a Makita XWT15Z 18V LXT Lithium Ion Brushless Cordless Impact Hammer instead? (This is like my niece buying a $5000 Alienware to play Roblox because she thinks she “needs a gaming PC”)
    - Cider9986 4mo ago
      At least she can play Minecraft with shaders.
      - amlib 4mo ago
        I bet that $5000 PC came only with a 3050 and some high end shaders lag on it lol
    - m463 4mo ago
      palm hammers are kind of cool, but they require air. Sort of like how most water cooling requires RGB. ;)
- bigyabai 4mo ago
  Ignorance isn't a good excuse. If you do backbreaking work in the worst shoes and complain about your foot hurting, you might want to start shoe shopping.
  - yndoendo 4mo ago
    Shoe shopping and learning about new / different technology are not equivalent. Shoes have a near uniform interface that is easily learned by parents or trial and error. Loading an alternative OS is foreign to most people. People learn from others the best. Teaching others is the only means for them to realize there are better solutions than sticking with techo-fascist Microsoft. I'm say this as someone that grew up on MS-DOS and used Windows OS up to Windows 7. After personal exploration, other OSes actually are easier and more stable. You now have to pay me to use Windows OS. Microsoft is the baddy.
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- Animats 4mo ago
  This may be changing in Europe. Entire governments are fed up with Microsoft.
LeFantome 4mo ago
“No excuse”
noah34 4mo ago
good luck getting ol' grandma to flash her desktop with Fedora/equivalent
- willis936 4mo ago
  Flash it for her. The result will be a more stable (in terms of not shitting the bed randomly one day or changing the entire UI) and decluttered portal to whatever website she uses it for.
  - lenerdenator 4mo ago
    Let me provide you a preview of how this will go: "You moved my Chrome. I liked my Chrome. Put it back. I can't get to the Facebook. I want to talk on the Facebook and I can't because you moved my Chrome."
    - arcfour 4mo ago
      1. It's probably not hard to put her Chrome back where it was and set her homepage to Facebook. 2. These users wouldn't be the people referred to by the article though, right?
    - wpm 4mo ago
      Fedora is quite capable of doing absolutely nothing but opening Chrome and going to Facebook.
      - hurtigioll 4mo ago
        can you lock fedora down such that a few bad clicks dont disable the desktop manager and boots it into the terminal? this is the real problem with Linux on the desktop for non-power users
        opan 4mo ago
        Guessing this is just a hypothetical, but if you really can do that (disable the DM via the GUI by accident), I'd be curious. If you told me to do that on purpose, my first instinct would be to uninstall the package.
stodor89 4mo ago
> they have no excuse That's irrelevant, because they don't owe you an excuse to begin with.
themafia 4mo ago
> they do not really care What would their choice be anyways? It's like saying "yet people still die, they do not really care, they even engage in activities which hasten their deaths!"

Cider9986 4mo ago

People don't know about the stuff you're describing. They use the OS that comes with their PC or is the one everyone else uses.

Neywiny 4mo ago
^^^^^ https://xkcd.com/2501/ https://xkcd.com/2501/ Just like how Linus from LTT (just trust me bro on the source) said one day he needed a tool (hammer?) so he walked into the hardware store, found what looked like a hammer, and bought it. End of journey. And then he finally realized how a regular person buys tech. Most people do not care, do not know they should care, and do not care enough to know if they should care enough.
- wincy 4mo ago
  Yeah but they could have gotten a Makita XWT15Z 18V LXT Lithium Ion Brushless Cordless Impact Hammer instead? (This is like my niece buying a $5000 Alienware to play Roblox because she thinks she “needs a gaming PC”)
  - Cider9986 4mo ago
    At least she can play Minecraft with shaders.
    - amlib 4mo ago
      I bet that $5000 PC came only with a 3050 and some high end shaders lag on it lol
  - m463 4mo ago
    palm hammers are kind of cool, but they require air. Sort of like how most water cooling requires RGB. ;)
bigyabai 4mo ago
Ignorance isn't a good excuse. If you do backbreaking work in the worst shoes and complain about your foot hurting, you might want to start shoe shopping.
- yndoendo 4mo ago
  Shoe shopping and learning about new / different technology are not equivalent. Shoes have a near uniform interface that is easily learned by parents or trial and error. Loading an alternative OS is foreign to most people. People learn from others the best. Teaching others is the only means for them to realize there are better solutions than sticking with techo-fascist Microsoft. I'm say this as someone that grew up on MS-DOS and used Windows OS up to Windows 7. After personal exploration, other OSes actually are easier and more stable. You now have to pay me to use Windows OS. Microsoft is the baddy.
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Animats 4mo ago
This may be changing in Europe. Entire governments are fed up with Microsoft.

LeFantome 4mo ago

“No excuse”

noah34 4mo ago

good luck getting ol' grandma to flash her desktop with Fedora/equivalent

willis936 4mo ago
Flash it for her. The result will be a more stable (in terms of not shitting the bed randomly one day or changing the entire UI) and decluttered portal to whatever website she uses it for.
- lenerdenator 4mo ago
  Let me provide you a preview of how this will go: "You moved my Chrome. I liked my Chrome. Put it back. I can't get to the Facebook. I want to talk on the Facebook and I can't because you moved my Chrome."
  - arcfour 4mo ago
    1. It's probably not hard to put her Chrome back where it was and set her homepage to Facebook. 2. These users wouldn't be the people referred to by the article though, right?
  - wpm 4mo ago
    Fedora is quite capable of doing absolutely nothing but opening Chrome and going to Facebook.
    - hurtigioll 4mo ago
      can you lock fedora down such that a few bad clicks dont disable the desktop manager and boots it into the terminal? this is the real problem with Linux on the desktop for non-power users
      - opan 4mo ago
        Guessing this is just a hypothetical, but if you really can do that (disable the DM via the GUI by accident), I'd be curious. If you told me to do that on purpose, my first instinct would be to uninstall the package.

stodor89 4mo ago

> they have no excuse That's irrelevant, because they don't owe you an excuse to begin with.

themafia 4mo ago

> they do not really care What would their choice be anyways? It's like saying "yet people still die, they do not really care, they even engage in activities which hasten their deaths!"