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I've always thought of the USA as the east Roman Empire of the British Empire. The seat of the throne moved to the white house, but the USA is still culturally
by hyperman1 4mo ago
I've always thought of the USA as the east Roman Empire of the British Empire. The seat of the throne moved to the white house, but the USA is still culturally close to the UK. Except for the religion, which seems to come from The Netherlands and Germany.
- mathgeek 4mo ago> Except for the religion, which seems to come from The Netherlands and Germany. Which religion brings those thoughts to mind? As an American I often find myself combining a handful of the American denominations into one, but I’m interested to hear what an outsider sees projected.
- hyperman1 4mo agoBasically, the whole protestant faction. A sibling comment mentions Lutheran (German) and Mennonites (Dutch). There is of course catholicism from the Irish, but the Anglicans are suspiciously small.
- mike_hearn 4mo agoThe Puritans fundamentally shaped American society and culture. They were English.
- crote 4mo agoIsn't that just because a large portion of the early English colonialists moved to the USA precisely because they weren't Anglicans? See for example the Mayflower: they left England due to prosecution, moved to The Netherlands, then left for the USA because there was too much freedom for them and they wanted to impose stricter rules. There's of course the obvious heritage in the sense that the Reformation started in Germany, but movements like the Mennonites have never really caught on there or in The Netherlands. They only took off once they landed in the USA, so I wouldn't call that a change of seat.
- Joker_vD 4mo agoWell, considering that Puritans actually managed to push through the prohibition on Christmas (and Easter) celebrations, it's no wonder they got so wildly unpopular that they had to emigrate.
- nsavage 4mo agoThis is a really interesting idea. I'd never put this together myself, but its really compelling. It really shows the value of the phrase "history doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme".
- alephnerd 4mo ago> The seat of the throne moved to the white house, but the USA is still culturally close to the UK > Except for the religion, which seems to come from The Netherlands and Germany. This underestimates how Germanic, Irish, Italian, and Hispanic America is. For example - Hot dogs, Hamburgers, Budweiser, Chrysler, Rockefeller, Disney, the New York Times, Christmas Trees, Lutheran congregations, Mennonite congregations, etc are all German. And having stayed in the UK for extended periods for work, it is significantly different culturally speaking than much of the US.
- mike_hearn 4mo agoDisney? > Walt Disney was born on December 5, 1901, at 1249 Tripp Avenue in the Hermosa neighborhood of Chicago, Illinois, United States. He was the fourth son of Elias Disney, who was born in the Province of Canada to Anglo-Irish parents, and Flora (née Call), an American of German and English descent
- alephnerd 4mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ub_Iwerks
- red-iron-pine 4mo agothat's a stretch. it's hard to argue it's a continuity when there were two (2) direct wars where the US aggressively rejected British domination -- and then set about creating a entirely separate form of government. in concert there was the Great Revival and a whole new emergence of new world evangelicalism, a far cry from the Church of England.
- decafninja 4mo agoReminds me of an anime titled Code Geass, whose alt-historical setting is where Benjamin Franklin betrays the American colonies to the British, who win the Revolutionary War. Then Napoleon proceeds to kick them out of Europe, and the British re-establish themselves in North America and emerge as the pre-eminent superpower.