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27% of Swiss residents were born outside the country. Can there ever be a limit to immigration, or will it always mean you are literally Hitler and want to exte

27% of Swiss residents were born outside the country. Can there ever be a limit to immigration, or will it always mean you are literally Hitler and want to exterminate millions?

leejo 4mo ago
> 27% of Swiss residents were born outside the country. Swiss nationality is not linked to your birth country, it is linked to lineage. There are second, third, (fourth, fifth, sixth?) generation immigrants in Switzerland that are not Swiss. Conversly, there are Swiss nationals that have never set foot in Switzerland.
- kgwgk 4mo ago
  That’s unrelated to the fact you reply to.
  - leejo 4mo ago
    > That’s unrelated to the fact you reply to. I was addressing the implication in the "fact", which is incorrect anyway. One in five of that 27% were born in Switzerland: https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/en/home/statistics/population/migration-integration/by-migration-status.html https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/en/home/statistics/population/m...
    - kgwgk 4mo ago
      It's really remarkable that such a large fraction of Swiss residents born abroad were also born in Switzerland! I had only heard about rebirth in a figurative spiritual sense.
- Teever 4mo ago
  What events occurred that made the original Swiss people into Swiss people?
  - deleted 4mo ago
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- includenotfound 4mo ago
  The point OP is making is that Switzerland undisputably has a very large proportion of immigrant population and that adding more should be carefully considered for various legitimate reasons, but it looks like you chose to be willfully ignorant.
  - leejo 4mo ago
    OP could have made this point in a better way without expressing it in a way that isn't true or implying that nationality is by birth. Let's do that having looked at https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/en/home/statistics/population/migration-integration/by-migration-status.html https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/en/home/statistics/population/m... * 41% of the permanent resident population aged 15 and over has a migration background * 27% of the permanent resident population is not Swiss * 22% of the permanent resident population was born outside of Switzerland Notice the subtle distinction in the phrasing of the second point above and OP's phrasing? OP chose to phrase in a way that was a) wrong, and b) misleading. This has been classic tactics around this vote and others over the years. Here's some more countries by immigrant background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_immigrant_and_emigrant_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_im... # Switzerland is on a par with Austria, Australia, and New Zealand, and way below many other countries that have > 50%.
okanat 4mo ago
> you are literally Hitler and want to exterminate millions? That's the part they currently don't say out loud. They are getting bolder and bolder though.
jokowueu 4mo ago
Oh there could but we are talking about the svp here, they are hiding their brown pants in the closet right now .

27% of Swiss residents were born outside the country. Can there ever be a limit to immigration, or will it always mean you are literally Hitler and want to exterminate millions?

leejo 4mo ago

> 27% of Swiss residents were born outside the country. Swiss nationality is not linked to your birth country, it is linked to lineage. There are second, third, (fourth, fifth, sixth?) generation immigrants in Switzerland that are not Swiss. Conversly, there are Swiss nationals that have never set foot in Switzerland.

kgwgk 4mo ago
That’s unrelated to the fact you reply to.
- leejo 4mo ago
  > That’s unrelated to the fact you reply to. I was addressing the implication in the "fact", which is incorrect anyway. One in five of that 27% were born in Switzerland: https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/en/home/statistics/population/migration-integration/by-migration-status.html https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/en/home/statistics/population/m...
  - kgwgk 4mo ago
    It's really remarkable that such a large fraction of Swiss residents born abroad were also born in Switzerland! I had only heard about rebirth in a figurative spiritual sense.
Teever 4mo ago
What events occurred that made the original Swiss people into Swiss people?
- deleted 4mo ago
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includenotfound 4mo ago
The point OP is making is that Switzerland undisputably has a very large proportion of immigrant population and that adding more should be carefully considered for various legitimate reasons, but it looks like you chose to be willfully ignorant.
- leejo 4mo ago
  OP could have made this point in a better way without expressing it in a way that isn't true or implying that nationality is by birth. Let's do that having looked at https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/en/home/statistics/population/migration-integration/by-migration-status.html https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/en/home/statistics/population/m... * 41% of the permanent resident population aged 15 and over has a migration background * 27% of the permanent resident population is not Swiss * 22% of the permanent resident population was born outside of Switzerland Notice the subtle distinction in the phrasing of the second point above and OP's phrasing? OP chose to phrase in a way that was a) wrong, and b) misleading. This has been classic tactics around this vote and others over the years. Here's some more countries by immigrant background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_immigrant_and_emigrant_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_im... # Switzerland is on a par with Austria, Australia, and New Zealand, and way below many other countries that have > 50%.

okanat 4mo ago

> you are literally Hitler and want to exterminate millions? That's the part they currently don't say out loud. They are getting bolder and bolder though.

jokowueu 4mo ago

Oh there could but we are talking about the svp here, they are hiding their brown pants in the closet right now .