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It sounds like these people would otherwise be laid off if they were not parked in this department instead. I imagine they are quite unhappy, but getting paid 2

by kajman 4mo ago

It sounds like these people would otherwise be laid off if they were not parked in this department instead. I imagine they are quite unhappy, but getting paid 200k+ to do tasks that are usually gig work is hardly the most heart wrenching story in this tech market.

nik282000 4mo ago
Plenty of entry level positions looking for the experience these 'engineers' claim to have.
loeg 4mo ago
Eh, maybe. It's not clear that some won't be returned to their old roles eventually. Personally, I think I'd prefer the layoff with severance over this kind of transfer.
epgui 4mo ago
I think everyone deserves to participate in meaningful and dignified work.
- Dylan16807 4mo ago
  They can all get that if they want it! At a very nice but not as high wage.
- inopinatus 4mo ago
  That is why I have no sympathy to spare for anyone who chose to work for Zuckerberg's social toilet.
  - ComplexSystems 4mo ago
    Yes, they certainly should have taken one of the many other jobs that are widely available right now.
    - conception 4mo ago
      After Meta you can get a job at any normal org pretty easily. After Meta’s “AI department “ doubly so.
- coherentpony 4mo ago
  If your comment is intended to convey sympathy on these workers, I think you're going to have a difficult time finding folks that align with you. If your comment is intended to remind folks that these workers can simply resign of their own free will to find meaningful and dignified work at a different employer, I think you're going to have an easy time finding folks that align with you.
- metaletadf 4mo ago
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- yallpendantools 4mo ago
  From the article, it seems to me they've been "relegated" to coming up with Leetcode problems for AI. Which, let's face it, a bunch of them probably already did before for their SWE interview circus. I can see why they may feel under-employed/under-utilized but aside from the dystopian data gathering, I really find it hard to see what they are complaining about. The article even admits that their current tasks are easier than before. For the same paycheck! For 200K I will dredge through the most obscure IMO/Leetcode/ICPC problems and the palm of my hands will remain delicately smooth, in danger only of drying from the air conditioning. If there is no meaning and dignity in that I'm sure I'll have plenty leftover from that comp to find meaning and dignity elsewhere be it a side gig, charity work, or heck even just good times with my family and my social circle. A lot of people "just do a job" for much, much less and still live rich inner lives. Really, an orchestra of small violins playing while I read this one.
  - ethbr1 4mo ago
    > From the article, it seems to me they've been "relegated" to coming up with Leetcode problems for AI. Which, let's face it, a bunch of them probably already did before for their SWE interview circus. It is a grim irony. 1. Human trains on leetcode to land AOGMX SWE job 2. Job forces them into new role writing leetcode to train AI 3. ... 4. AI eats human, inherits the earth
bluedevil2k 4mo ago
Woah…they’re paid WAY more than $200k for this.

by kajman 4mo ago

nik282000 4mo ago

Plenty of entry level positions looking for the experience these 'engineers' claim to have.

loeg 4mo ago

Eh, maybe. It's not clear that some won't be returned to their old roles eventually. Personally, I think I'd prefer the layoff with severance over this kind of transfer.

epgui 4mo ago

I think everyone deserves to participate in meaningful and dignified work.

Dylan16807 4mo ago
They can all get that if they want it! At a very nice but not as high wage.
inopinatus 4mo ago
That is why I have no sympathy to spare for anyone who chose to work for Zuckerberg's social toilet.
- ComplexSystems 4mo ago
  Yes, they certainly should have taken one of the many other jobs that are widely available right now.
  - conception 4mo ago
    After Meta you can get a job at any normal org pretty easily. After Meta’s “AI department “ doubly so.
coherentpony 4mo ago
If your comment is intended to convey sympathy on these workers, I think you're going to have a difficult time finding folks that align with you. If your comment is intended to remind folks that these workers can simply resign of their own free will to find meaningful and dignified work at a different employer, I think you're going to have an easy time finding folks that align with you.
metaletadf 4mo ago
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yallpendantools 4mo ago
From the article, it seems to me they've been "relegated" to coming up with Leetcode problems for AI. Which, let's face it, a bunch of them probably already did before for their SWE interview circus. I can see why they may feel under-employed/under-utilized but aside from the dystopian data gathering, I really find it hard to see what they are complaining about. The article even admits that their current tasks are easier than before. For the same paycheck! For 200K I will dredge through the most obscure IMO/Leetcode/ICPC problems and the palm of my hands will remain delicately smooth, in danger only of drying from the air conditioning. If there is no meaning and dignity in that I'm sure I'll have plenty leftover from that comp to find meaning and dignity elsewhere be it a side gig, charity work, or heck even just good times with my family and my social circle. A lot of people "just do a job" for much, much less and still live rich inner lives. Really, an orchestra of small violins playing while I read this one.
- ethbr1 4mo ago
  > From the article, it seems to me they've been "relegated" to coming up with Leetcode problems for AI. Which, let's face it, a bunch of them probably already did before for their SWE interview circus. It is a grim irony. 1. Human trains on leetcode to land AOGMX SWE job 2. Job forces them into new role writing leetcode to train AI 3. ... 4. AI eats human, inherits the earth

bluedevil2k 4mo ago

Woah…they’re paid WAY more than $200k for this.