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Yeah, the community run TCRF wiki is banning VPNs just so they can mine your data along with the luxurious $400/mo they're getting from Patreon. And not because

by as1mov 4mo ago

Yeah, the community run TCRF wiki is banning VPNs just so they can mine your data along with the luxurious $400/mo they're getting from Patreon. And not because they're constantly being besieged by rampant bots that they have to resort to such drastic measures.

retired 4mo ago
I don’t know anything about TCRF or what they do as their website blocks me. I do see trackers from multiple big corporations on tcrf.net. What bots are using Apple Private Relay?
- Telaneo 4mo ago
  > I don’t know anything about TCRF or what they do as their website blocks me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cutting_Room_Floor_(website) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cutting_Room_Floor_(websit...
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- Xkeeper 4mo ago
  This is fascinating to me, because you just said you can't see it, but also that there are "trackers from multiple big corporations". Can you tell me what those are? I ask primarily because we explicitly don't use any trackers, to a degree I actually pride myself on running a website that doesn't contact anything else: https://mini.xkeeper.net/private/C58L77azpY.png https://mini.xkeeper.net/private/C58L77azpY.png The sole exceptions are YouTube embeds, afaik. I even switched out the MediaWiki and CC badges to be local.
  - Telaneo 4mo ago
    uBlock Origin shows nothing out of the ordinary but Youtube, Google and Doubleclick, so Google, Google and Google, and I assume all of those are due to the embed.
    - Xkeeper 4mo ago
      If you mean the block page, yes, that's just the YouTube embed. You'll see the same results on any wiki page that has a YouTube embed for the same reason; it's not tracking or anything I have control over (other than outright not having YouTube embeds). But I think if anyone has concerns over that, they're better addressed at the local-user level by disabling all unauthorized iframes.
      - MarioMan 4mo ago
        There are lightweight YouTube embeds like https://github.com/paulirish/lite-youtube-embed https://github.com/paulirish/lite-youtube-embed. It’s lauded for faster page loads, but it likely has good privacy implications too since it basically just loads a thumbnail unless you click on it.
      - retired 4mo ago
        Maybe don’t do YouTube embed if it’s just a flickering logo. Use a GIF for that. I’m not disabling my VPN if a website with multiple trackers asks me to.
  - retired 4mo ago
    On the “ Sorry, you are not allowed to access tcrf.net right now” page I get tracked by Google, YouTube and DoubleClick according to the report by Safari. I also have 924 kilobyte of data stored on my device after visiting tcrf.net without any consent.
calmworm 4mo ago
Why not use a captcha or turnstile?
thenthenthen 4mo ago
Funny it works for me while being on a vpns that gets blocked everywhere…

by as1mov 4mo ago

retired 4mo ago

I don’t know anything about TCRF or what they do as their website blocks me. I do see trackers from multiple big corporations on tcrf.net. What bots are using Apple Private Relay?

Telaneo 4mo ago
> I don’t know anything about TCRF or what they do as their website blocks me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cutting_Room_Floor_(website) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cutting_Room_Floor_(websit...
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Xkeeper 4mo ago
This is fascinating to me, because you just said you can't see it, but also that there are "trackers from multiple big corporations". Can you tell me what those are? I ask primarily because we explicitly don't use any trackers, to a degree I actually pride myself on running a website that doesn't contact anything else: https://mini.xkeeper.net/private/C58L77azpY.png https://mini.xkeeper.net/private/C58L77azpY.png The sole exceptions are YouTube embeds, afaik. I even switched out the MediaWiki and CC badges to be local.
- Telaneo 4mo ago
  uBlock Origin shows nothing out of the ordinary but Youtube, Google and Doubleclick, so Google, Google and Google, and I assume all of those are due to the embed.
  - Xkeeper 4mo ago
    If you mean the block page, yes, that's just the YouTube embed. You'll see the same results on any wiki page that has a YouTube embed for the same reason; it's not tracking or anything I have control over (other than outright not having YouTube embeds). But I think if anyone has concerns over that, they're better addressed at the local-user level by disabling all unauthorized iframes.
    - MarioMan 4mo ago
      There are lightweight YouTube embeds like https://github.com/paulirish/lite-youtube-embed https://github.com/paulirish/lite-youtube-embed. It’s lauded for faster page loads, but it likely has good privacy implications too since it basically just loads a thumbnail unless you click on it.
    - retired 4mo ago
      Maybe don’t do YouTube embed if it’s just a flickering logo. Use a GIF for that. I’m not disabling my VPN if a website with multiple trackers asks me to.
- retired 4mo ago
  On the “ Sorry, you are not allowed to access tcrf.net right now” page I get tracked by Google, YouTube and DoubleClick according to the report by Safari. I also have 924 kilobyte of data stored on my device after visiting tcrf.net without any consent.

calmworm 4mo ago

Why not use a captcha or turnstile?

thenthenthen 4mo ago

Funny it works for me while being on a vpns that gets blocked everywhere…