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I confused BlackCore with Black Cube, a different Israeli private oppo research and dirty tricks group of former intelligence agents. They gained attention for

I confused BlackCore with Black Cube, a different Israeli private oppo research and dirty tricks group of former intelligence agents. They gained attention for their dirty campaigns against Harvey Weinstein's accusers, NSOs critics and Hungarian opposition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Cube https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Cube

armchairhacker 4mo ago
Not to be confused with Blackrock or Blackstone, both large American investment companies with their own shady operations.
- bakugo 4mo ago
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  - oliwarner 4mo ago
    Oh, get in the bin. Conflating Israeli-sanctioned malevolence with "Jewish people" is incredibly unhelpful to the discussion.
    - Der_Einzige 4mo ago
      If “anti Zionism” is actually just “anti semitism” than “Israeli-sanctioned malevolence” can be conflated with the Jewish people.
      - JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
        > If “anti Zionism” is actually just “anti semitism” than “Israeli-sanctioned malevolence” can be conflated with the Jewish people No, obviously not. If 2 + 2 = 5, then 9 + 9 = 3 billion. No, and no.
    - Dig1t 4mo ago
      Blackrock and Blackstone DO indeed sponsor pro-Israel groups though. >https://www.reddit.com/r/BDS/comments/1rzo8xs/sponsors_of_recent_adl_convention/?rdt=35754 https://www.reddit.com/r/BDS/comments/1rzo8xs/sponsors_of_re...
      - throwawayqqq11 4mo ago
        You still didnt understand, that you shouldnt conflate this with jews in general?
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  - crote 4mo ago
    > I'm sure it's just a coincidence, though. Yes, actually. The Israeli state is not synonymous with Judaism, so let's not promote the classic "All Jewish bankers are greedy and evil" antisemitic trope. Blackrock and Blackstone are of course evil in the same ways as all other major investment firms, but if you believe the Jewish identity of some of their founders has anything to do with that or if they have anything to do with the Palestinian genocide you better provide proof.
    - bakugo 4mo ago
      BlackRock is one of the largest shareholders of Palantir. Larry Fink doesn't hide his support of Israel's war efforts. The proof is right there, you barely have to look for it. Of course, I'm sure none of this matters, because modern progressives walk a very fine line between taking a moral stance against the horrors committed by Israel, while strictly being allowed to criticize only the Israeli government itself as some sort of abstract entity completely detached from its citizens and religion to avoid "antisemitism" (the polar opposite of how Russia's war efforts have been criticized, in which every Russian citizen is often assumed to be complicit in some way).
      - armchairhacker 4mo ago
        > the polar opposite of how Russia's war efforts have been criticized, in which every Russian citizen is often assumed to be complicit in some way Well they’re wrong. I know many Russians and every one is talented and kind, unsurprisingly every one speaks against the war. The same (flawed) argument can be made that every Palestinian is complicit in the atrocities committed by Hamas. Or that every American is complicit in Trump’s tomfoolery.
        bakugo 4mo ago
        I completely agree, I was just trying to make a point about the inconsistency between criticism of Russia and criticism of Israel at the peak of both nations' wars. Unconditional hatred towards every citizen for their government's actions is obviously not logical. As is often the case, the truth is somewhere in the middle. You shouldn't expect every person who is a Russian citizen or of Russian descent to support Putin, but if a person of Russian descent does openly support Putin, it's safe to assume the two things might be correlated. Similarly, if a person of Jewish descent openly supports the Israeli government, acting like those things can't possibly be correlated doesn't make sense, either.
  - tclancy 4mo ago
    If you all would shut your hateful traps for a year or so, we might be able to have a productive discussion about what a horror show the Israeli government has become. But we can’t because you all have to pop up out of gopher holes thinking we are antisemitic too and the whole process starts over again because this sort of useful idiot provides cover to the defenders of these war crimes.
    - humannutsack 4mo ago
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    - tclancy 4mo ago
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    - smashah 4mo ago
      What conversation is left to have after 70k children and an oceans worth of Babyblood? What's left to negotiate, reconcile or discuss? Conceding that antisemites are the friction in the discussion just gives Israel rhetorical space to bomb more children. Your sentiments might be directionally correct but not productive (as if that's a valid metric anymore in this redundant debate). Occupied governments are DESTROYING (constitutional) freedoms, rights, privacy and democracy for this babybloodthirsty state. All the while well meaning folk try to maintain a "productive" landscape of debate/discussion. The debate is over. The discussion arena exists to sink efforts from materially stopping the babybloodshed.
- lostlogin 4mo ago
  And don’t forget Blackwater.
  - upcoming-sesame 4mo ago
    What about Blackstool

armchairhacker 4mo ago

Not to be confused with Blackrock or Blackstone, both large American investment companies with their own shady operations.

bakugo 4mo ago
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- oliwarner 4mo ago
  Oh, get in the bin. Conflating Israeli-sanctioned malevolence with "Jewish people" is incredibly unhelpful to the discussion.
  - Der_Einzige 4mo ago
    If “anti Zionism” is actually just “anti semitism” than “Israeli-sanctioned malevolence” can be conflated with the Jewish people.
    - JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
      > If “anti Zionism” is actually just “anti semitism” than “Israeli-sanctioned malevolence” can be conflated with the Jewish people No, obviously not. If 2 + 2 = 5, then 9 + 9 = 3 billion. No, and no.
  - Dig1t 4mo ago
    Blackrock and Blackstone DO indeed sponsor pro-Israel groups though. >https://www.reddit.com/r/BDS/comments/1rzo8xs/sponsors_of_recent_adl_convention/?rdt=35754 https://www.reddit.com/r/BDS/comments/1rzo8xs/sponsors_of_re...
    - throwawayqqq11 4mo ago
      You still didnt understand, that you shouldnt conflate this with jews in general?
      - deleted 4mo ago
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- crote 4mo ago
  > I'm sure it's just a coincidence, though. Yes, actually. The Israeli state is not synonymous with Judaism, so let's not promote the classic "All Jewish bankers are greedy and evil" antisemitic trope. Blackrock and Blackstone are of course evil in the same ways as all other major investment firms, but if you believe the Jewish identity of some of their founders has anything to do with that or if they have anything to do with the Palestinian genocide you better provide proof.
  - bakugo 4mo ago
    BlackRock is one of the largest shareholders of Palantir. Larry Fink doesn't hide his support of Israel's war efforts. The proof is right there, you barely have to look for it. Of course, I'm sure none of this matters, because modern progressives walk a very fine line between taking a moral stance against the horrors committed by Israel, while strictly being allowed to criticize only the Israeli government itself as some sort of abstract entity completely detached from its citizens and religion to avoid "antisemitism" (the polar opposite of how Russia's war efforts have been criticized, in which every Russian citizen is often assumed to be complicit in some way).
    - armchairhacker 4mo ago
      > the polar opposite of how Russia's war efforts have been criticized, in which every Russian citizen is often assumed to be complicit in some way Well they’re wrong. I know many Russians and every one is talented and kind, unsurprisingly every one speaks against the war. The same (flawed) argument can be made that every Palestinian is complicit in the atrocities committed by Hamas. Or that every American is complicit in Trump’s tomfoolery.
      - bakugo 4mo ago
        I completely agree, I was just trying to make a point about the inconsistency between criticism of Russia and criticism of Israel at the peak of both nations' wars. Unconditional hatred towards every citizen for their government's actions is obviously not logical. As is often the case, the truth is somewhere in the middle. You shouldn't expect every person who is a Russian citizen or of Russian descent to support Putin, but if a person of Russian descent does openly support Putin, it's safe to assume the two things might be correlated. Similarly, if a person of Jewish descent openly supports the Israeli government, acting like those things can't possibly be correlated doesn't make sense, either.
- tclancy 4mo ago
  If you all would shut your hateful traps for a year or so, we might be able to have a productive discussion about what a horror show the Israeli government has become. But we can’t because you all have to pop up out of gopher holes thinking we are antisemitic too and the whole process starts over again because this sort of useful idiot provides cover to the defenders of these war crimes.
  - humannutsack 4mo ago
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  - tclancy 4mo ago
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  - smashah 4mo ago
    What conversation is left to have after 70k children and an oceans worth of Babyblood? What's left to negotiate, reconcile or discuss? Conceding that antisemites are the friction in the discussion just gives Israel rhetorical space to bomb more children. Your sentiments might be directionally correct but not productive (as if that's a valid metric anymore in this redundant debate). Occupied governments are DESTROYING (constitutional) freedoms, rights, privacy and democracy for this babybloodthirsty state. All the while well meaning folk try to maintain a "productive" landscape of debate/discussion. The debate is over. The discussion arena exists to sink efforts from materially stopping the babybloodshed.
lostlogin 4mo ago
And don’t forget Blackwater.
- upcoming-sesame 4mo ago
  What about Blackstool