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You can pick which of the two possibilities, neither of which is even close to your political views, will oppress you for the next 4 years.

jmyeet 4mo ago
Another prediction win for the Simpson's [1]. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8hDsIoEFYw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8hDsIoEFYw
latexr 4mo ago
While the USA is famously a two-party system, that’s not true of every democracy.
- bluecalm 4mo ago
  The system being 2 party, 3 party or 4 party system doesn't change much though. If you want to improve democracy you need stronger and more independent local governments and some way for people to directly vote on issues (both local and federal/country wise). Otherwise it will always be career politicians deciding on issues based on their personal interests.
graemep 4mo ago
That is true in the US, but that is not typical. I cannot think of another democracy that is as firmly two party as the US. Even the UK which I felt was too two party has always had some smaller parties (for many decades the Liberals, and then the Lib Dems, and Northern Irish parties), many smaller ones more recently (add the Scottish and Welsh Nationalists) and with two smaller parties gaining a lot of ground in the last few years the next general election looks like a four way fight. In many countries multiple parties and coalition governments are the norm.
- graemep 4mo ago
  To add, the multiple parties in the UK just means I have more choices that are not close to my political views!
  - ako 4mo ago
    Apparently not enough people want what you want, that is also democracy, accepting that things other people want can be prioritized,
    - graemep 4mo ago
      That is true, but it also means that multiple parties does not solve the problem of the parent to my first comment in this thread which as "You can pick which of the two possibilities, neither of which is even close to your political views, will oppress you for the next 4 years.".
CuriouslyC 4mo ago
The solution is ranked choice voting and getting money out of politics.
- addandsubtract 4mo ago
  That requires actual activism, getting involved in local politics, and mobilizing. All things that Americans, ironically, can't afford. So here we are, creating trillionaires instead.

jmyeet 4mo ago

Another prediction win for the Simpson's [1]. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8hDsIoEFYw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8hDsIoEFYw

latexr 4mo ago

While the USA is famously a two-party system, that’s not true of every democracy.

bluecalm 4mo ago
The system being 2 party, 3 party or 4 party system doesn't change much though. If you want to improve democracy you need stronger and more independent local governments and some way for people to directly vote on issues (both local and federal/country wise). Otherwise it will always be career politicians deciding on issues based on their personal interests.

graemep 4mo ago

That is true in the US, but that is not typical. I cannot think of another democracy that is as firmly two party as the US. Even the UK which I felt was too two party has always had some smaller parties (for many decades the Liberals, and then the Lib Dems, and Northern Irish parties), many smaller ones more recently (add the Scottish and Welsh Nationalists) and with two smaller parties gaining a lot of ground in the last few years the next general election looks like a four way fight. In many countries multiple parties and coalition governments are the norm.

graemep 4mo ago
To add, the multiple parties in the UK just means I have more choices that are not close to my political views!
- ako 4mo ago
  Apparently not enough people want what you want, that is also democracy, accepting that things other people want can be prioritized,
  - graemep 4mo ago
    That is true, but it also means that multiple parties does not solve the problem of the parent to my first comment in this thread which as "You can pick which of the two possibilities, neither of which is even close to your political views, will oppress you for the next 4 years.".

CuriouslyC 4mo ago

The solution is ranked choice voting and getting money out of politics.

addandsubtract 4mo ago
That requires actual activism, getting involved in local politics, and mobilizing. All things that Americans, ironically, can't afford. So here we are, creating trillionaires instead.