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Every F35 is exported with a killswitch. and you think this is a silly decision? its not silly, its gatekeeping, iam sure this will get much strict in future, w

Every F35 is exported with a killswitch. and you think this is a silly decision? its not silly, its gatekeeping, iam sure this will get much strict in future, where even developing a frontier model can get sanctions from US. IMO Every country need AI sovereignty and its right time to form a group or consortium of nations to fund and build an equally capable frontier model that is accessible to all others. AI should not be confined to certain nations, the way nuclear capabilities are restricted.

markoman 4mo ago
This killswitch claim is false and would be a huge vulnerability if it existed.
- pseudony 4mo ago
  You don’t need a fancy kill switch, just stop sending parts and updates, any sustained conflict will do the work. Any F35 bought by Europe is nothing short of lunacy. You don’t buy from people hell-bent on having conflicts with you.
  - sreekanth850 4mo ago
    Excatly and even more they are stripped version. Export version is always inferior.
    - baq 4mo ago
      Except the Israeli versions obviously. These are at least on par with domestic.
      - sreekanth850 4mo ago
        Iam not sure about this, may be true. But in general exported products are always less capable. Be it f35, brahmos or s400.
  - throwaway85825 4mo ago
    Due to political engineering some significant parts are manufactured in partnership countries. That supply chain is also a vulnerability for the US albeit to a lesser degree.
  - litigator 4mo ago
    The UK alone produces 15% of the parts required to assemble the F35. Around 25% of the jet is manufactured/produced by the other partners of the program. Heck the F35B only exists due to the UK demanding it. They have access to the source code (and so do Israel).
throwaway85825 4mo ago
There's no kill switch. The F35 advantage is the mission data files that are frequently updated and allow the F35 to classify targets and threats. Essentially the US and partners collect the electronic signatures of enemy radars and package them so in a conflict the het can draw a box with a S400 label.
- crote 4mo ago
  So it doesn't have a kill switch, it just stops being useful when it can no longer regularly phone home? That sounds awfully close to a killswitch to me...
  - throwaway85825 4mo ago
    Countries could generate their own MDFs but what's the point, it's from shared intelligence. Which is the premise of an alliance. Sometimes variances in manufacture or maintenance of electronic systems allow the F35 to identify not just type of system but exact unit.

markoman 4mo ago

This killswitch claim is false and would be a huge vulnerability if it existed.

pseudony 4mo ago
You don’t need a fancy kill switch, just stop sending parts and updates, any sustained conflict will do the work. Any F35 bought by Europe is nothing short of lunacy. You don’t buy from people hell-bent on having conflicts with you.
- sreekanth850 4mo ago
  Excatly and even more they are stripped version. Export version is always inferior.
  - baq 4mo ago
    Except the Israeli versions obviously. These are at least on par with domestic.
    - sreekanth850 4mo ago
      Iam not sure about this, may be true. But in general exported products are always less capable. Be it f35, brahmos or s400.
- throwaway85825 4mo ago
  Due to political engineering some significant parts are manufactured in partnership countries. That supply chain is also a vulnerability for the US albeit to a lesser degree.
- litigator 4mo ago
  The UK alone produces 15% of the parts required to assemble the F35. Around 25% of the jet is manufactured/produced by the other partners of the program. Heck the F35B only exists due to the UK demanding it. They have access to the source code (and so do Israel).

throwaway85825 4mo ago

There's no kill switch. The F35 advantage is the mission data files that are frequently updated and allow the F35 to classify targets and threats. Essentially the US and partners collect the electronic signatures of enemy radars and package them so in a conflict the het can draw a box with a S400 label.

crote 4mo ago
So it doesn't have a kill switch, it just stops being useful when it can no longer regularly phone home? That sounds awfully close to a killswitch to me...
- throwaway85825 4mo ago
  Countries could generate their own MDFs but what's the point, it's from shared intelligence. Which is the premise of an alliance. Sometimes variances in manufacture or maintenance of electronic systems allow the F35 to identify not just type of system but exact unit.