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> Do you think China is going to allow the strongest LLMs ... a year from now when they have Mythos capabilities "Mythos capabilities" is not some magic thresh

> Do you think China is going to allow the strongest LLMs ... a year from now when they have Mythos capabilities "Mythos capabilities" is not some magic threshold. This is exactly the type of language that people used about GPT-4 in 2023. Today, I can run models far stronger than GPT-4 on my laptop at speeds better than GPT-4 offered. Anthropic are quite good at coining sticky phrases like "Mythos-class models", but these are manipulative attempts to shape the discourse for business purposes and should be identified as such.

ozozozd 4mo ago
Disappointingly, it still works. They used this type of language with GPT-2. Le sigh, yawn.
- usef- 4mo ago
  To be fair, they were proven right about automated spam, phishing and disinformation being a problem. Yes, some of it looks silly now, though it's always easy to criticize with hindsight: the models could do unexpectedly impressive things and we didn't fully know the limit yet, it was a black box. Remember you're critcising the org that actually made it public to people earlier than any other: the uncertainty was a temporary caution. The "open" in OpenAI was because they made it available, unlike Google at the time.
  - its-summertime 4mo ago
    > To be fair, they were proven right about automated spam, phishing and disinformation being a problem When the company that enables this, makes the predictions in the first place, that is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
  - scotty79 4mo ago
    > To be fair, they were proven right about automated spam, phishing and disinformation being a problem. I have less problems with those now than I used to before AI. I think filters got better and what comes through is easily recognizable due to being AI generated. Also the awareness that things can be effortlessly made up to sell anything raised my baseline scepticism towards all information, which can be only good.
raincole 4mo ago
It wasn't a magical threshold until today. Now it surely is a magic threshold, set by the US government.

ozozozd 4mo ago

Disappointingly, it still works. They used this type of language with GPT-2. Le sigh, yawn.

usef- 4mo ago
To be fair, they were proven right about automated spam, phishing and disinformation being a problem. Yes, some of it looks silly now, though it's always easy to criticize with hindsight: the models could do unexpectedly impressive things and we didn't fully know the limit yet, it was a black box. Remember you're critcising the org that actually made it public to people earlier than any other: the uncertainty was a temporary caution. The "open" in OpenAI was because they made it available, unlike Google at the time.
- its-summertime 4mo ago
  > To be fair, they were proven right about automated spam, phishing and disinformation being a problem When the company that enables this, makes the predictions in the first place, that is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
- scotty79 4mo ago
  > To be fair, they were proven right about automated spam, phishing and disinformation being a problem. I have less problems with those now than I used to before AI. I think filters got better and what comes through is easily recognizable due to being AI generated. Also the awareness that things can be effortlessly made up to sell anything raised my baseline scepticism towards all information, which can be only good.

raincole 4mo ago

It wasn't a magical threshold until today. Now it surely is a magic threshold, set by the US government.