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China had already forbade their top researchers to even leave China. Also foreign investments into Chinese AI labs have already been forbidden and asked to exi

China had already forbade their top researchers to even leave China. Also foreign investments into Chinese AI labs have already been forbidden and asked to exit

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handle584 4mo ago
I wonder what will happen to Chinese employees of Anthropic/OpenAI/Google Gemini? Given the ubiquitous Chinese names in AI papers there must be quite a few. They probably have gotten their PR or in the process, but naturalization requires five years after that, so there must be some still not citizen yet.
- londons_explore 4mo ago
  If you are born in China to Chinese parents, China considers you under it's jurisdiction for life. You can't travel to another country and start working against Chinese interests without consequences.
  - olalonde 4mo ago
    That's not true. You can renounce your Chinese citizenship and it's actually required if you acquire another citizenship.
    - seanmcdirmid 4mo ago
      This is sort of true. China can forcibly reinstate Chinese citizenship at their own discretion.
      - olalonde 4mo ago
        I guess in the same sense that the U.S. considers they have jurisdiction globally. Not de jure, but a de facto reality.
        seanmcdirmid 3mo ago
        Yes. mind you this is just about the Swedish bookseller who was abducted from Thailand in 2018. There is not much defense for China here, even a what aboutism the USA doesn’t do much.
tw1984 4mo ago
that is to avoid having them arrested by the US under "US national security concerns".
- karmasimida 4mo ago
  It is also prevent the employees leaving because the lure of US capital
gmueckl 4mo ago
Do you have sources? I would like to read more about that.
- karmasimida 4mo ago
  https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-restricts-overseas-travel-top-ai-talent-alibaba-deepseek-bloomberg-news-2026-05-26/ https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-restricts-o...
- karmasimida 4mo ago
  https://wap.eastmoney.com/a/202605203743576829.html https://wap.eastmoney.com/a/202605203743576829.html

China had already forbade their top researchers to even leave China. Also foreign investments into Chinese AI labs have already been forbidden and asked to exit

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handle584 4mo ago

I wonder what will happen to Chinese employees of Anthropic/OpenAI/Google Gemini? Given the ubiquitous Chinese names in AI papers there must be quite a few. They probably have gotten their PR or in the process, but naturalization requires five years after that, so there must be some still not citizen yet.

londons_explore 4mo ago
If you are born in China to Chinese parents, China considers you under it's jurisdiction for life. You can't travel to another country and start working against Chinese interests without consequences.
- olalonde 4mo ago
  That's not true. You can renounce your Chinese citizenship and it's actually required if you acquire another citizenship.
  - seanmcdirmid 4mo ago
    This is sort of true. China can forcibly reinstate Chinese citizenship at their own discretion.
    - olalonde 4mo ago
      I guess in the same sense that the U.S. considers they have jurisdiction globally. Not de jure, but a de facto reality.
      - seanmcdirmid 3mo ago
        Yes. mind you this is just about the Swedish bookseller who was abducted from Thailand in 2018. There is not much defense for China here, even a what aboutism the USA doesn’t do much.

tw1984 4mo ago

that is to avoid having them arrested by the US under "US national security concerns".

karmasimida 4mo ago
It is also prevent the employees leaving because the lure of US capital

gmueckl 4mo ago

Do you have sources? I would like to read more about that.

karmasimida 4mo ago
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-restricts-overseas-travel-top-ai-talent-alibaba-deepseek-bloomberg-news-2026-05-26/ https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-restricts-o...
karmasimida 4mo ago
https://wap.eastmoney.com/a/202605203743576829.html https://wap.eastmoney.com/a/202605203743576829.html