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This is marketing. 1. Release fable, highly nerfed and limited 2. See the compute capacity limiter pegged day after day 3. Lobby to the government, claiming a

by mvkel 4mo ago

This is marketing. 1. Release fable, highly nerfed and limited 2. See the compute capacity limiter pegged day after day 3. Lobby to the government, claiming ai is super unsafe and not aligned and they must do something 4. Government "forces" anth to turn off 5. Anth takes the pressure off of compute capacity, and gets to blame it on the govt Like you're telling me fable is somehow an order of magnitude better than GPT 5.5 to the point where it compromises national security, despite evals and anecdotes saying otherwise? Nah.

handoflixue 4mo ago
You're saying a company's marketing department can casually get the United States Government to issue a national security passage, preventing sale or distribution of their product? Was their ongoing designation as a "supply chain risk", which they are suing to overturn in court, also a marketing stunt? Seems like a really strange thing to use that sort of power for - why not just get all your competition declared persona non-grata and seize monopoly power?
- mvkel 4mo ago
  I mean, it's literally what they've been asking for from day one.
  - handoflixue 4mo ago
    Oh, cool, then surely you can point me towards the posts where they're celebrating this, or even actively advocating "please ban our product on a Friday with no notice or due process"?
    - mvkel 4mo ago
      Sure, from the horse's mouth: https://x.com/darioamodei/status/2064781775247950326?s=46 https://x.com/darioamodei/status/2064781775247950326?s=46 In interviews, this week alone, Dario has gone on record repeatedly about wanting to slow AI progress. Anthropic silently degraded AI-research queries to Fable (they changed course on this, but they still thought it was a good idea) And now that the government is taking them at their word, they're trying to drag GPT-5.5 and OpenAI down with them Yes, the administration is being heavy-handed, but unfortunatley it's the logical end of telling everyone you built a "nuke" and that it's possible for people to use it against us
      - handoflixue 4mo ago
        Oh cool, we're back to "she was asking for it, wearing a short skirt like that". There's a difference between regulation and the government randomly waving it's dick. The government was aware of Mythos capabilities since it was announced two months ago. If there was ANY sort of serious concern, they could have just blocked the release. Instead, it got pulled three days after release. We would be having a very different conversation if this was an actual regulation, which is very clearly what Anthropic was actually asking for Now leave the nice lady in the skirt alone, you pervert.
mitthrowaway2 4mo ago
Yes, it's marketing straight out of the Big Tobacco playbook. Convince everyone your product is dangerous, get government to ban it, and then... uh... pivot into adjacent market segments?
- mvkel 4mo ago
  Not a good analogy. Fable/Mythos are unsustainably expensive for Anthropic. They want/need the world to be nerfed to remain solvent. They didn't have to turn off -all- models

by mvkel 4mo ago

handoflixue 4mo ago

You're saying a company's marketing department can casually get the United States Government to issue a national security passage, preventing sale or distribution of their product? Was their ongoing designation as a "supply chain risk", which they are suing to overturn in court, also a marketing stunt? Seems like a really strange thing to use that sort of power for - why not just get all your competition declared persona non-grata and seize monopoly power?

mvkel 4mo ago
I mean, it's literally what they've been asking for from day one.
- handoflixue 4mo ago
  Oh, cool, then surely you can point me towards the posts where they're celebrating this, or even actively advocating "please ban our product on a Friday with no notice or due process"?
  - mvkel 4mo ago
    Sure, from the horse's mouth: https://x.com/darioamodei/status/2064781775247950326?s=46 https://x.com/darioamodei/status/2064781775247950326?s=46 In interviews, this week alone, Dario has gone on record repeatedly about wanting to slow AI progress. Anthropic silently degraded AI-research queries to Fable (they changed course on this, but they still thought it was a good idea) And now that the government is taking them at their word, they're trying to drag GPT-5.5 and OpenAI down with them Yes, the administration is being heavy-handed, but unfortunatley it's the logical end of telling everyone you built a "nuke" and that it's possible for people to use it against us
    - handoflixue 4mo ago
      Oh cool, we're back to "she was asking for it, wearing a short skirt like that". There's a difference between regulation and the government randomly waving it's dick. The government was aware of Mythos capabilities since it was announced two months ago. If there was ANY sort of serious concern, they could have just blocked the release. Instead, it got pulled three days after release. We would be having a very different conversation if this was an actual regulation, which is very clearly what Anthropic was actually asking for Now leave the nice lady in the skirt alone, you pervert.

mitthrowaway2 4mo ago

Yes, it's marketing straight out of the Big Tobacco playbook. Convince everyone your product is dangerous, get government to ban it, and then... uh... pivot into adjacent market segments?

mvkel 4mo ago
Not a good analogy. Fable/Mythos are unsustainably expensive for Anthropic. They want/need the world to be nerfed to remain solvent. They didn't have to turn off -all- models