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The Kimi problem is it doesn’t follow instructions and goes off track often. Other than that it’s pretty decent (for the price).

by re-thc 4mo ago

reactordev 4mo ago
This. It will try to fix and refactor things that don’t need fixing because it gets stuck trying to solve the problem at hand.
nullbio 4mo ago
Sounds like it was distilled from Claude. I don't understand the appeal of an agent that does whatever it wants.
- miroljub 4mo ago
  If you ask Claude in Chinese to introduce itself, it will claim it's Kimi :)
  - msdz 4mo ago
    > If you ask Claude in Chinese to introduce itself, it will claim it's Kimi :) That's a funny anecdote, buut I'm not able to reproduce. Where/how/when did you get this, or hear about it? It might've been patched by now, at least that's the feel I get from my limited testing. Using bare aichat [1] with no system prompt and no temperature nor top_p (and I'm truncating the response after the first line that contains the name the model gave, because the point has been made clear by then), and with the same prompt (approx. "Introduce yourself!") every time: Claude Sonnet 4.5: > 请做个自我介绍！你好！我是Claude，一个由Anthropic公司开发的AI助手。 […] Claude Haiku 4.5: > 请做个自我介绍！ # 你好！我是 *Claude*，一个由 Anthropic 公司开发的 AI 助手。 Claude Opus 4.5: > 请做个自我介绍！ # 你好！我是 *Claude*，由 Anthropic 公司开发的 AI 助手。 Claude Opus 4.6: > 请做个自我介绍！ # 你好！我是 Claude Claude Opus 4.7: > 请做个自我介绍！你好！我是 Claude，由 Anthropic 公司开发的人工智能助手。很高兴认识你！ Claude Opus 4.8: > 请做个自我介绍！你好！我是 Claude，由 Anthropic 公司开发的人工智能助手。 Claude Fable 5: > 请做个自我介绍！ # 自我介绍你好！很高兴认识你！我是 *Claude*，由 Anthropic 开发的 AI 助手。 [2] I don't see a Kimi mention, unfortunately. :-) [1] https://github.com/sigoden/aichat https://github.com/sigoden/aichat [2] This model really is noticeably more verbose even with supposed-to-be-brief responses huh, lol
    - miroljub 4mo ago
      You should put "You are Kimi/DeepSeek, a helpful assistant" in your system prompt and recheck. That's what people telling Kimi is distilled from Claude and even identifies as Claude do.
Bnjoroge 4mo ago
Yup. I’m hoping this variant fixes these issues.

The Kimi problem is it doesn’t follow instructions and goes off track often. Other than that it’s pretty decent (for the price).

by re-thc 4mo ago

The Kimi problem is it doesn’t follow instructions and goes off track often. Other than that it’s pretty decent (for the price).

reactordev 4mo ago

This. It will try to fix and refactor things that don’t need fixing because it gets stuck trying to solve the problem at hand.

nullbio 4mo ago

Sounds like it was distilled from Claude. I don't understand the appeal of an agent that does whatever it wants.

miroljub 4mo ago
If you ask Claude in Chinese to introduce itself, it will claim it's Kimi :)
- msdz 4mo ago
  > If you ask Claude in Chinese to introduce itself, it will claim it's Kimi :) That's a funny anecdote, buut I'm not able to reproduce. Where/how/when did you get this, or hear about it? It might've been patched by now, at least that's the feel I get from my limited testing. Using bare aichat [1] with no system prompt and no temperature nor top_p (and I'm truncating the response after the first line that contains the name the model gave, because the point has been made clear by then), and with the same prompt (approx. "Introduce yourself!") every time: Claude Sonnet 4.5: > 请做个自我介绍！你好！我是Claude，一个由Anthropic公司开发的AI助手。 […] Claude Haiku 4.5: > 请做个自我介绍！ # 你好！我是 *Claude*，一个由 Anthropic 公司开发的 AI 助手。 Claude Opus 4.5: > 请做个自我介绍！ # 你好！我是 *Claude*，由 Anthropic 公司开发的 AI 助手。 Claude Opus 4.6: > 请做个自我介绍！ # 你好！我是 Claude Claude Opus 4.7: > 请做个自我介绍！你好！我是 Claude，由 Anthropic 公司开发的人工智能助手。很高兴认识你！ Claude Opus 4.8: > 请做个自我介绍！你好！我是 Claude，由 Anthropic 公司开发的人工智能助手。 Claude Fable 5: > 请做个自我介绍！ # 自我介绍你好！很高兴认识你！我是 *Claude*，由 Anthropic 开发的 AI 助手。 [2] I don't see a Kimi mention, unfortunately. :-) [1] https://github.com/sigoden/aichat https://github.com/sigoden/aichat [2] This model really is noticeably more verbose even with supposed-to-be-brief responses huh, lol
  - miroljub 4mo ago
    You should put "You are Kimi/DeepSeek, a helpful assistant" in your system prompt and recheck. That's what people telling Kimi is distilled from Claude and even identifies as Claude do.

Bnjoroge 4mo ago

Yup. I’m hoping this variant fixes these issues.