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Codex for open source

275 points by EvgeniyZh 4mo ago

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vintagedave 4mo ago
I wonder how well this supports niche languages. There's an indication there for stars or other signals of importance to 'the ecosystem'; that could match the Big Libraries but likely not ones for small languages.
monster_truck 4mo ago
How is this different from https://openai.com/form/codex-open-source-fund/ https://openai.com/form/codex-open-source-fund/ and are the winners listed anywhere? I've only ever seen devs say it isn't worth bothering, many of which I would've expected to be shoe ins for something like this.
- vinhnx 4mo ago
  The former has been refreshed and rebranded. The new form URL is https://openai.com/form/codex-for-oss/ https://openai.com/form/codex-for-oss/
  - cute_boi 4mo ago
    and both of them generally don't work unless you have bought many github stars
sscaryterry 4mo ago
Hurdles, more hurdles.
2001zhaozhao 4mo ago
I think programs like this are cool, the company gets to promote their product and do good at the same time. This looks like a broader program than past ones and giving out GPT5.5 could be meaningful in improving open-source projects' security.
winfredJa 4mo ago
my guess is they get high quality training data.
- measurablefunc 4mo ago
  This is correct. The most valuable form of data for any AI company is corrective feedback from real use cases.
ReptileMan 4mo ago
The moment a corporation starts to endorse open source is the moment they admit they know that are behind.
- SweetSoftPillow 4mo ago
  Anthropic published essentially the same offering recently. By your logic, does that mean they're behind too?
ilia-a 4mo ago
I did fill the form our a while back (it was around for a few months now) without any response. I guess must be really big OSS project for maintainer to qualify.
- MeetingsBrowser 4mo ago
  What project did you apply for?
  - ilia-a 4mo ago
    PHP
    - jstummbillig 4mo ago
      [flagged]
    - arcanemachiner 4mo ago
      If you harass the right person on Twitter, you could probably get that ball rolling a little faster.
- spooneybarger 4mo ago
  Same. But I got one from Anthropic.
realo 4mo ago
After what just happened to Anthropic, no way in hell will I ever use, support or give money to Kushner's OpenAI.
- OutOfHere 4mo ago
  That was Amazon's doing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48519092 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48519092 Correction: only in part
  - wyrdcurt 4mo ago
    The Axios article[1] I read says "calls from Amazon — as well as at least five other companies to a variety of senior administration officials Thursday evening and Friday morning — led to the model being shut down by Friday night". Yes, Amazon is the only company named, but would anyone be surprised if OpenAI was one of the other five companies? It's hard to imagine a company that would materially benefit more from this event. The evidence is circumstantial, of course, but can you blame people for making a connection? [1] https://www.axios.com/2026/06/13/anthropic-amazon-white-house https://www.axios.com/2026/06/13/anthropic-amazon-white-hous...
drw 4mo ago
Mycli (https://github.com/dbcli/mycli https://github.com/dbcli/mycli) is a happy recipient of sponsorship from this program. OpenAI asked for nothing in return; not even a link.
- tclancy 4mo ago
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- mrgoldenbrown 4mo ago
  Are you saying they aren't getting training data from you?
  - drw 4mo ago
    I'm sure they are getting training data! But it is hands-off otherwise.
fortuitous-frog 4mo ago
FYI this program is ~3 months old, and Anthropic has a similar Claude for Open Source program (see https://claude.com/contact-sales/claude-for-oss https://claude.com/contact-sales/claude-for-oss).
- rmast 4mo ago
  I applied for both. Heard back from neither. Mentioned two particular projects when applying, one with 2k stars and 5M monthly downloads, and another with 2M monthly downloads.
  - matheusmoreira 4mo ago
    Now I'm wondering what the bar is since even people with millions of users aren't making the cut. I'm orders of magnitude smaller but I signed up too since I had nothing to lose. Didn't get a response, of course.
    - adrithmetiqa 4mo ago
      Is it possible this is vapour marketing and no projects are actually being selected? Perhaps someone from a project who has heard back can respond here?
      - matheusmoreira 4mo ago
        Anthropic released Fable with builtin prompt injection for sabotage purposes. I suppose anything is possible.
- mickael-kerjean 4mo ago
  I applied for my oss project Filestash which satisfy all their criterias but never heard back despite the project having millions of users, more than 14000 stars on github and representing more work than a single person can cope with
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hmokiguess 4mo ago
What does this clause here mean and why would they include it? https://developers.openai.com/codex/codex-for-oss-terms#7-submission-similarity-no-exclusivity-no-confidentiality https://developers.openai.com/codex/codex-for-oss-terms#7-su... Isn't the thing open source and governed by its own license?
- arjie 4mo ago
  That is interesting. I would have thought they had that right without needing to add it to the ToS.
  - gruez 4mo ago
    It's better to have something in writing than to possibly have lawyers argue over it in court.
28304283409234 4mo ago
6 whole months?! Gee golly thanks mister!
- hnthrow10282910 4mo ago
  Agreed. Seems like it should be indefinite given they created a multi billion dollar company off the backs of these maintainers dedicating their hard earned timed for free to begin with and then trained models against their code. IMO this is an insult if anything
  - nish__ 4mo ago
    Especially considering they trained the damn thing on our code.
- baq 4mo ago
  Do you complain to the bank that credit cards have expiration dates or to the government that passports also do?
  - LtWorf 4mo ago
    The bank mails me a new one automatically.
vldszn 4mo ago
I applied for the first time a couple of months ago and again this month, but unfortunately I haven’t heard back from them :( I’m building EasyInvoicePDF - a free and open-source invoice generator. (900+ GitHub stars, 2k monthly users on average, 10k total invoices downloaded) https://github.com/VladSez/easy-invoice-pdf https://github.com/VladSez/easy-invoice-pdf
upghost 4mo ago
theprimagen called this[1] like three days ago. That was fast. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-bT5v5Tm7w&t=164s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-bT5v5Tm7w&t=164s
- jasonjmcghee 4mo ago
  They’ve been doing this since at least March
- 3836293648 4mo ago
  No, he didn't? He predicted that third parties would donate tokens to FOSS projects, not that the labs would. One is PR that started ages ago, the other is a reasonable prediction of where the world is going.
  - goodroot 4mo ago
    Not quite donate tokens directly (technically and practically weird), but donation -> compute has been out for a couple months on opub.dev (disclaimer, built it). So his prediction was somewhat correct if not late!
zmmmmm 4mo ago
Seems rather stingy - 6 months is barely longer than you will get on a free signup deal for a lot of online products anyway. Kind of worse than nothing if it causes you to adopt work patterns that aren't sustainable for the project after the offer ends.
- deleted 4mo ago
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- EduardoBautista 4mo ago
  Which online product gives away 6 months of a $100 per month subscription?
  - wodenokoto 4mo ago
    6 email addresses gives you 6 one months trials …
    - tclancy 4mo ago
      Where am I going to find multiple+email@adress.es?
      - Groxx 4mo ago
        One can consult the oracle, /dev/random
      - manquer 4mo ago
        Using a plus sign is subaddressing [1] and most ESPs[2] will route to the main address ( multiple@addre.es) . So you can use use multiple+email@adress.es, multiple+xyz@adress.es and both will route the email to you. In my experience most SaaS apps do not filter this out and allow re-sign ups with sub-addresses. Gmail has an additional behavior that dot character is ignored in local component of the address . multiple@gmail.com, mult.iple@gmail.com mult.ip.le@gmail.com all route to the same inbox as well. [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5233 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5233 [2] Less common in work hosted ESPs but almost universally default enabled in public ESPs for consumers.
colinsane 4mo ago
a huge aspect of open source is the user -> contributor -> maintainer pipeline. maybe they mean well, but in fact they're constructing a wall between those last two groups. especially in larger projects where maintainership duties are heavily delegated, the last thing i want is some tool that can only be used by me, because suddenly i can no longer share the workload that tool targets with people who aren't "technically" maintainers.
outime 4mo ago
Codex for open source stored in GitHub*
vinhnx 4mo ago
Applied in March when it first launched for VT Code, a Rust-based terminal coding agent, but haven't heard back from OpenAI. The bar seems high, which makes sense given the fund's limited scope and requirements.
dottchen 4mo ago
it's hard to trust them when there is little human support behind the scenes
veni0 4mo ago
I applied last months ago and again, but there not have any information, but Claude is very fast. I build the https://github.com/go-vgo/robotgo https://github.com/go-vgo/robotgo, https://github.com/go-ego/gse https://github.com/go-ego/gse and others, 20k+
ixtli 4mo ago
If you only give 6mo then this is the opposite of a commitment to open source it’s a drug dealers tactic of giving the first taste for free.
- georgemcbay 4mo ago
  > If you only give 6mo then this is the opposite of a commitment to open source it’s a drug dealers tactic of giving the first taste for free. Its arguably even more self-serving than the drug dealer tactic because of the feedback loop involved (if you use it to maintain your open source project, OpenAI will surely use that new code [along with all the existing code in your project] to train future models). So it would be like if the drug dealer gave you the first taste for free and also the drug caused you to shit out more drugs and the drug dealer harvested your shit to sell to both future you plus other people.
  - KetoManx64 4mo ago
    Very vivid analogy that I'm never going to forget now.
- altmanaltman 4mo ago
  drug dealers should teach MBA classes at this point - so many strategies pioneered by them get used by large tech companies
verdyshd 4mo ago
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mkagenius 4mo ago
6 months a bummer, but we got it for apple sandbox - coderunner (https://github.com/instavm/coderunner https://github.com/instavm/coderunner) We got it yesterday, maybe they just started rolling it out and hence op posted this.
tuananh 4mo ago
a very good way of collecting high quality training data. i imagine the usage from maintainers of high quality projects are excellent training data. much better than average joe
goodroot 4mo ago
Trying to get https://opub.dev https://opub.dev off the ground to solve this in a more open way. If you have more than 100 stars, you can get $50 in starter credit. Ideally organizations, more so than people, provide the bulk of future donations. As for this program, ehh... Sceptical in general of any frontier program that ends at some time. Once you're embedded, and all that...
purpleidea 4mo ago
The difference between this one (good) and the Anthropic program (bad) is that openai doesn't force you into a marketing clause while Anthropic does. I mean seriously, you already ripped off all the worlds open source code. Be more generous and don't demand anything else back. Six months is so little too.
htrp 4mo ago
Anyone know how much API credit openai offers?
- idank 4mo ago
  They give out the subscription by default, and if they find your use case interesting enough they'll give you credits. Not sure if there's an upper limit, but I would be surprised if it's more than a few hundred dollars a month. (no internal knowledge, this is based on my experience with explainshell.com, thanks OAI!)
ev3lynx727 4mo ago
These grant programs feel inconsistent—sometimes they genuinely help OSS, other times they look more like marketing. Hard to tell where the balance really lies.
- wseqyrku 4mo ago
  When in doubt, go with marketing. There are things that are 'just marketing' you wouldn't believe.
- akoboldfrying 4mo ago
  > sometimes they genuinely help OSS, other times they look more like marketing Whenever companies do things like this, it's both, or at least trying hard to be. To the extent that it's perceived by developers (that is, potential OpenAI customers) as helping OSS, it's effective marketing. This perception may or may not correspond to reality.
holografix 4mo ago
Nice way of guaranteeing access to source code as training material and intelligence gathering
dartharva 4mo ago
On a side note, am I the only one who feels Codex models have a higher general first-pass success rate than Claude models on coding what you want? I use Github Copilot and always find myself drifting more towards them when working.
ameon 4mo ago
what they do when someone switches from open source to closed source later
fuddle 4mo ago
"6 months of ChatGPT Pro, which includes Codex" - come on, just make it free. Last time I checked OpenAI was worth $852 billion.
- baq 4mo ago
  This valuation is derived from the fact the three tokens aren’t free
agentifysh 4mo ago
just applied I've forked tensorzero after they archived the repo and will be updating and fixing issues going forward. https://github.com/agentify-sh/gateway https://github.com/agentify-sh/gateway this is my 2nd attempt I am using my idle codex usage but would benefit from more inference
seu 4mo ago
Of course the solution to overusing AI is... to use more AI. Love it.
kelnos 4mo ago
Same as Anthropic's similar offer, they're only giving 6 months free. This really just feels like a way to get OSS maintainers hooked so they buy subscriptions after the free period is over. If they were really serious about supporting OSS, they'd offer it for free perpetually (well, with periodic checks to ensure the maintainers are still affiliated with the project). Anything less just makes it look like a marketing stunt. And also, dumb how Github-centric this is, same as Anthropic's signup form. Most of my OSS contributions aren't on Github. Guess that means the projects I've worked on don't matter.
- petesergeant 4mo ago
  Presumably it's also sessions that they will absolutely use as training data?
- ACCount37 4mo ago
  The bulk of open source development is (still?) on Github. It's not like the Linux kernel isn't real. It's just that the kind of people who write Linux kernel patches and get them accepted are, in the eyes of an average open source developer, somewhere between "majestic magical creatures" and "madmen".
- dominotw 4mo ago
  is there any company or product that donates their subscription service free forever ?
  - Gee101 4mo ago
    Github?
- prodigycorp 4mo ago
  I read anthropic's offer is majorly nerfed compared to their regular 20x plan. I've seen OSS develoeprs ask anthropic to revert their plan to a paid plan because it's otherwise a hindrance.
einpoklum 4mo ago
"Critical open source software" should not, and maybe cannot, be maintained with its development requiring huge commercial-corporate infrastructure in the form of OpenAI's LLMs. It should be maintained by humans, relying on widely available hardware and software, requiring little of both. Not saying that using LLMs as a convenience is forbidden or anything, but the direction is problematic. (Also, this sounds like a cheap alternative to actually funding FOSS work.)
jeena 4mo ago
I like that a project only qualifies if it's hosted on GitHub.
akoboldfrying 4mo ago
The amount of gift-horse-mouth-looking in this thread is amazing to me. How dare they only give me this much free stuff! I want that much free stuff!
- ahartmetz 4mo ago
  I want my license fee from my software that they trained their models on. (Actually I don't, I want their stuff as Free Software and I mean everything, training data, pipelines and all)
emsign 4mo ago
They are coming for the repositories now.
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ashish296 4mo ago
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TZubiri 4mo ago
What a visionary Stallman was.
breve 4mo ago
What are AI companies doing to respect open source licenses and copyright? I'm sure they train their models on open source software, so how do I know that LLM generated code doesn't reproduce substantial chunks of, for example, GPL licensed code? If indeed there are GPL violations, what are AI companies doing to police themselves? I wonder if open source licenses will start to include "not to be used for LLM training" clauses.
- sofixa 4mo ago
  > I wonder if open source licenses will start to include "not to be used for LLM training" clauses As if the LLM trainers would care. They've ignored every single license and copyright policy out there because "fair transformative use". It's undergoing litigation in various jurisdictions, and the chaotic side of me really wants to see what happens if a UK or California decide that training an LLM on pirated copyrighted material is not fair use, and the rights holders have to be compensated.
metalspot 4mo ago
I wouldn't use anything but open weights models for developing open source software. This is just training OpenAI and Anthropic to steal your work for their proprietary models.
- _the_inflator 4mo ago
  The crux of open source: per definition it is opened for the public to use it. I see it as a chance. Many OS projects themselves offer LLM readable websites, their docs. This way the project at least not only gets ingested but receives referential treatment. Some sort of collaboration. Ingested it will be, anyway.
  - metalspot 4mo ago
    > I see it as a chance absolutely. AI is the same as any other software, and open source has to integrate, adapt, and lead to make sure that open source values continue to propagate. my personal approach is to focus on developing with open weights models, so that my work is optimized for them, and leads to their development. proprietary labs are free to copy, but they have a structural cost disadvantage. my objective is that open weights models remain competitive on capability but lead on capability/cost.
- maccard 4mo ago
  If your license is open then Anthropic and OpenAI are using your work anyway.
  - metalspot 4mo ago
    the user prompts and harness used for development are much more valuable for training than the final source code. my approach to open source development with AI now is to include all of the agent sessions used in development in the repository, which makes this data freely available for training for both proprietary and open weights models, but that is just my own approach. every open source developer ultimately has to make their own judgement on the best way to integrate AI in accordance with their values.
medmarrouchi 4mo ago
Applied twice and didn't get any response
ramon156 4mo ago
First hit's free
julianlam 4mo ago
6 months is a joke. Companies a thousandth their size are giving free or at-cost access for OSS projects.
bibryam 4mo ago
A few AI companies giving free stuff to OSS maintainers - Dosu - CodeRabbit - OpenAI - Anthropic https://www.oss.fund/explore/?pillar=operational-support&category=infrastructure&tag=ai https://www.oss.fund/explore/?pillar=operational-support&cat...

275 points by EvgeniyZh 4mo ago

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I wonder how well this supports niche languages. There's an indication there for stars or other signals of importance to 'the ecosystem'; that could match the Big Libraries but likely not ones for small languages.

monster_truck 4mo ago

How is this different from https://openai.com/form/codex-open-source-fund/ https://openai.com/form/codex-open-source-fund/ and are the winners listed anywhere? I've only ever seen devs say it isn't worth bothering, many of which I would've expected to be shoe ins for something like this.

vinhnx 4mo ago
The former has been refreshed and rebranded. The new form URL is https://openai.com/form/codex-for-oss/ https://openai.com/form/codex-for-oss/
- cute_boi 4mo ago
  and both of them generally don't work unless you have bought many github stars

sscaryterry 4mo ago

Hurdles, more hurdles.

2001zhaozhao 4mo ago

I think programs like this are cool, the company gets to promote their product and do good at the same time. This looks like a broader program than past ones and giving out GPT5.5 could be meaningful in improving open-source projects' security.

winfredJa 4mo ago

my guess is they get high quality training data.

measurablefunc 4mo ago
This is correct. The most valuable form of data for any AI company is corrective feedback from real use cases.

ReptileMan 4mo ago

The moment a corporation starts to endorse open source is the moment they admit they know that are behind.

SweetSoftPillow 4mo ago
Anthropic published essentially the same offering recently. By your logic, does that mean they're behind too?

ilia-a 4mo ago

I did fill the form our a while back (it was around for a few months now) without any response. I guess must be really big OSS project for maintainer to qualify.

MeetingsBrowser 4mo ago
What project did you apply for?
- ilia-a 4mo ago
  PHP
  - jstummbillig 4mo ago
    [flagged]
  - arcanemachiner 4mo ago
    If you harass the right person on Twitter, you could probably get that ball rolling a little faster.
spooneybarger 4mo ago
Same. But I got one from Anthropic.

realo 4mo ago

After what just happened to Anthropic, no way in hell will I ever use, support or give money to Kushner's OpenAI.

OutOfHere 4mo ago
That was Amazon's doing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48519092 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48519092 Correction: only in part
- wyrdcurt 4mo ago
  The Axios article[1] I read says "calls from Amazon — as well as at least five other companies to a variety of senior administration officials Thursday evening and Friday morning — led to the model being shut down by Friday night". Yes, Amazon is the only company named, but would anyone be surprised if OpenAI was one of the other five companies? It's hard to imagine a company that would materially benefit more from this event. The evidence is circumstantial, of course, but can you blame people for making a connection? [1] https://www.axios.com/2026/06/13/anthropic-amazon-white-house https://www.axios.com/2026/06/13/anthropic-amazon-white-hous...

drw 4mo ago

Mycli (https://github.com/dbcli/mycli https://github.com/dbcli/mycli) is a happy recipient of sponsorship from this program. OpenAI asked for nothing in return; not even a link.

tclancy 4mo ago
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mrgoldenbrown 4mo ago
Are you saying they aren't getting training data from you?
- drw 4mo ago
  I'm sure they are getting training data! But it is hands-off otherwise.

fortuitous-frog 4mo ago

FYI this program is ~3 months old, and Anthropic has a similar Claude for Open Source program (see https://claude.com/contact-sales/claude-for-oss https://claude.com/contact-sales/claude-for-oss).

rmast 4mo ago
I applied for both. Heard back from neither. Mentioned two particular projects when applying, one with 2k stars and 5M monthly downloads, and another with 2M monthly downloads.
- matheusmoreira 4mo ago
  Now I'm wondering what the bar is since even people with millions of users aren't making the cut. I'm orders of magnitude smaller but I signed up too since I had nothing to lose. Didn't get a response, of course.
  - adrithmetiqa 4mo ago
    Is it possible this is vapour marketing and no projects are actually being selected? Perhaps someone from a project who has heard back can respond here?
    - matheusmoreira 4mo ago
      Anthropic released Fable with builtin prompt injection for sabotage purposes. I suppose anything is possible.
mickael-kerjean 4mo ago
I applied for my oss project Filestash which satisfy all their criterias but never heard back despite the project having millions of users, more than 14000 stars on github and representing more work than a single person can cope with
- 4mo ago

hmokiguess 4mo ago

What does this clause here mean and why would they include it? https://developers.openai.com/codex/codex-for-oss-terms#7-submission-similarity-no-exclusivity-no-confidentiality https://developers.openai.com/codex/codex-for-oss-terms#7-su... Isn't the thing open source and governed by its own license?

arjie 4mo ago
That is interesting. I would have thought they had that right without needing to add it to the ToS.
- gruez 4mo ago
  It's better to have something in writing than to possibly have lawyers argue over it in court.

28304283409234 4mo ago

6 whole months?! Gee golly thanks mister!

hnthrow10282910 4mo ago
Agreed. Seems like it should be indefinite given they created a multi billion dollar company off the backs of these maintainers dedicating their hard earned timed for free to begin with and then trained models against their code. IMO this is an insult if anything
- nish__ 4mo ago
  Especially considering they trained the damn thing on our code.
baq 4mo ago
Do you complain to the bank that credit cards have expiration dates or to the government that passports also do?
- LtWorf 4mo ago
  The bank mails me a new one automatically.

vldszn 4mo ago

I applied for the first time a couple of months ago and again this month, but unfortunately I haven’t heard back from them :( I’m building EasyInvoicePDF - a free and open-source invoice generator. (900+ GitHub stars, 2k monthly users on average, 10k total invoices downloaded) https://github.com/VladSez/easy-invoice-pdf https://github.com/VladSez/easy-invoice-pdf

upghost 4mo ago

theprimagen called this[1] like three days ago. That was fast. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-bT5v5Tm7w&t=164s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-bT5v5Tm7w&t=164s

jasonjmcghee 4mo ago
They’ve been doing this since at least March
3836293648 4mo ago
No, he didn't? He predicted that third parties would donate tokens to FOSS projects, not that the labs would. One is PR that started ages ago, the other is a reasonable prediction of where the world is going.
- goodroot 4mo ago
  Not quite donate tokens directly (technically and practically weird), but donation -> compute has been out for a couple months on opub.dev (disclaimer, built it). So his prediction was somewhat correct if not late!

zmmmmm 4mo ago

Seems rather stingy - 6 months is barely longer than you will get on a free signup deal for a lot of online products anyway. Kind of worse than nothing if it causes you to adopt work patterns that aren't sustainable for the project after the offer ends.

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EduardoBautista 4mo ago
Which online product gives away 6 months of a $100 per month subscription?
- wodenokoto 4mo ago
  6 email addresses gives you 6 one months trials …
  - tclancy 4mo ago
    Where am I going to find multiple+email@adress.es?
    - Groxx 4mo ago
      One can consult the oracle, /dev/random
    - manquer 4mo ago
      Using a plus sign is subaddressing [1] and most ESPs[2] will route to the main address ( multiple@addre.es) . So you can use use multiple+email@adress.es, multiple+xyz@adress.es and both will route the email to you. In my experience most SaaS apps do not filter this out and allow re-sign ups with sub-addresses. Gmail has an additional behavior that dot character is ignored in local component of the address . multiple@gmail.com, mult.iple@gmail.com mult.ip.le@gmail.com all route to the same inbox as well. [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5233 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5233 [2] Less common in work hosted ESPs but almost universally default enabled in public ESPs for consumers.

colinsane 4mo ago

a huge aspect of open source is the user -> contributor -> maintainer pipeline. maybe they mean well, but in fact they're constructing a wall between those last two groups. especially in larger projects where maintainership duties are heavily delegated, the last thing i want is some tool that can only be used by me, because suddenly i can no longer share the workload that tool targets with people who aren't "technically" maintainers.

outime 4mo ago

Codex for open source stored in GitHub*

vinhnx 4mo ago

Applied in March when it first launched for VT Code, a Rust-based terminal coding agent, but haven't heard back from OpenAI. The bar seems high, which makes sense given the fund's limited scope and requirements.

dottchen 4mo ago

it's hard to trust them when there is little human support behind the scenes

veni0 4mo ago

I applied last months ago and again, but there not have any information, but Claude is very fast. I build the https://github.com/go-vgo/robotgo https://github.com/go-vgo/robotgo, https://github.com/go-ego/gse https://github.com/go-ego/gse and others, 20k+

ixtli 4mo ago

If you only give 6mo then this is the opposite of a commitment to open source it’s a drug dealers tactic of giving the first taste for free.

georgemcbay 4mo ago
> If you only give 6mo then this is the opposite of a commitment to open source it’s a drug dealers tactic of giving the first taste for free. Its arguably even more self-serving than the drug dealer tactic because of the feedback loop involved (if you use it to maintain your open source project, OpenAI will surely use that new code [along with all the existing code in your project] to train future models). So it would be like if the drug dealer gave you the first taste for free and also the drug caused you to shit out more drugs and the drug dealer harvested your shit to sell to both future you plus other people.
- KetoManx64 4mo ago
  Very vivid analogy that I'm never going to forget now.
altmanaltman 4mo ago
drug dealers should teach MBA classes at this point - so many strategies pioneered by them get used by large tech companies

verdyshd 4mo ago

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mkagenius 4mo ago

6 months a bummer, but we got it for apple sandbox - coderunner (https://github.com/instavm/coderunner https://github.com/instavm/coderunner) We got it yesterday, maybe they just started rolling it out and hence op posted this.

tuananh 4mo ago

a very good way of collecting high quality training data. i imagine the usage from maintainers of high quality projects are excellent training data. much better than average joe

goodroot 4mo ago

Trying to get https://opub.dev https://opub.dev off the ground to solve this in a more open way. If you have more than 100 stars, you can get $50 in starter credit. Ideally organizations, more so than people, provide the bulk of future donations. As for this program, ehh... Sceptical in general of any frontier program that ends at some time. Once you're embedded, and all that...

purpleidea 4mo ago

The difference between this one (good) and the Anthropic program (bad) is that openai doesn't force you into a marketing clause while Anthropic does. I mean seriously, you already ripped off all the worlds open source code. Be more generous and don't demand anything else back. Six months is so little too.

htrp 4mo ago

Anyone know how much API credit openai offers?

idank 4mo ago
They give out the subscription by default, and if they find your use case interesting enough they'll give you credits. Not sure if there's an upper limit, but I would be surprised if it's more than a few hundred dollars a month. (no internal knowledge, this is based on my experience with explainshell.com, thanks OAI!)

ev3lynx727 4mo ago

These grant programs feel inconsistent—sometimes they genuinely help OSS, other times they look more like marketing. Hard to tell where the balance really lies.

wseqyrku 4mo ago
When in doubt, go with marketing. There are things that are 'just marketing' you wouldn't believe.
akoboldfrying 4mo ago
> sometimes they genuinely help OSS, other times they look more like marketing Whenever companies do things like this, it's both, or at least trying hard to be. To the extent that it's perceived by developers (that is, potential OpenAI customers) as helping OSS, it's effective marketing. This perception may or may not correspond to reality.

holografix 4mo ago

Nice way of guaranteeing access to source code as training material and intelligence gathering

dartharva 4mo ago

On a side note, am I the only one who feels Codex models have a higher general first-pass success rate than Claude models on coding what you want? I use Github Copilot and always find myself drifting more towards them when working.

ameon 4mo ago

what they do when someone switches from open source to closed source later

fuddle 4mo ago

"6 months of ChatGPT Pro, which includes Codex" - come on, just make it free. Last time I checked OpenAI was worth $852 billion.

baq 4mo ago
This valuation is derived from the fact the three tokens aren’t free

agentifysh 4mo ago

just applied I've forked tensorzero after they archived the repo and will be updating and fixing issues going forward. https://github.com/agentify-sh/gateway https://github.com/agentify-sh/gateway this is my 2nd attempt I am using my idle codex usage but would benefit from more inference

seu 4mo ago

Of course the solution to overusing AI is... to use more AI. Love it.

kelnos 4mo ago

Same as Anthropic's similar offer, they're only giving 6 months free. This really just feels like a way to get OSS maintainers hooked so they buy subscriptions after the free period is over. If they were really serious about supporting OSS, they'd offer it for free perpetually (well, with periodic checks to ensure the maintainers are still affiliated with the project). Anything less just makes it look like a marketing stunt. And also, dumb how Github-centric this is, same as Anthropic's signup form. Most of my OSS contributions aren't on Github. Guess that means the projects I've worked on don't matter.

petesergeant 4mo ago
Presumably it's also sessions that they will absolutely use as training data?
ACCount37 4mo ago
The bulk of open source development is (still?) on Github. It's not like the Linux kernel isn't real. It's just that the kind of people who write Linux kernel patches and get them accepted are, in the eyes of an average open source developer, somewhere between "majestic magical creatures" and "madmen".
dominotw 4mo ago
is there any company or product that donates their subscription service free forever ?
- Gee101 4mo ago
  Github?
prodigycorp 4mo ago
I read anthropic's offer is majorly nerfed compared to their regular 20x plan. I've seen OSS develoeprs ask anthropic to revert their plan to a paid plan because it's otherwise a hindrance.

einpoklum 4mo ago

"Critical open source software" should not, and maybe cannot, be maintained with its development requiring huge commercial-corporate infrastructure in the form of OpenAI's LLMs. It should be maintained by humans, relying on widely available hardware and software, requiring little of both. Not saying that using LLMs as a convenience is forbidden or anything, but the direction is problematic. (Also, this sounds like a cheap alternative to actually funding FOSS work.)

jeena 4mo ago

I like that a project only qualifies if it's hosted on GitHub.

akoboldfrying 4mo ago

The amount of gift-horse-mouth-looking in this thread is amazing to me. How dare they only give me this much free stuff! I want that much free stuff!

ahartmetz 4mo ago
I want my license fee from my software that they trained their models on. (Actually I don't, I want their stuff as Free Software and I mean everything, training data, pipelines and all)

emsign 4mo ago

They are coming for the repositories now.

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TZubiri 4mo ago

What a visionary Stallman was.

breve 4mo ago

What are AI companies doing to respect open source licenses and copyright? I'm sure they train their models on open source software, so how do I know that LLM generated code doesn't reproduce substantial chunks of, for example, GPL licensed code? If indeed there are GPL violations, what are AI companies doing to police themselves? I wonder if open source licenses will start to include "not to be used for LLM training" clauses.

sofixa 4mo ago
> I wonder if open source licenses will start to include "not to be used for LLM training" clauses As if the LLM trainers would care. They've ignored every single license and copyright policy out there because "fair transformative use". It's undergoing litigation in various jurisdictions, and the chaotic side of me really wants to see what happens if a UK or California decide that training an LLM on pirated copyrighted material is not fair use, and the rights holders have to be compensated.

metalspot 4mo ago

I wouldn't use anything but open weights models for developing open source software. This is just training OpenAI and Anthropic to steal your work for their proprietary models.

_the_inflator 4mo ago
The crux of open source: per definition it is opened for the public to use it. I see it as a chance. Many OS projects themselves offer LLM readable websites, their docs. This way the project at least not only gets ingested but receives referential treatment. Some sort of collaboration. Ingested it will be, anyway.
- metalspot 4mo ago
  > I see it as a chance absolutely. AI is the same as any other software, and open source has to integrate, adapt, and lead to make sure that open source values continue to propagate. my personal approach is to focus on developing with open weights models, so that my work is optimized for them, and leads to their development. proprietary labs are free to copy, but they have a structural cost disadvantage. my objective is that open weights models remain competitive on capability but lead on capability/cost.
maccard 4mo ago
If your license is open then Anthropic and OpenAI are using your work anyway.
- metalspot 4mo ago
  the user prompts and harness used for development are much more valuable for training than the final source code. my approach to open source development with AI now is to include all of the agent sessions used in development in the repository, which makes this data freely available for training for both proprietary and open weights models, but that is just my own approach. every open source developer ultimately has to make their own judgement on the best way to integrate AI in accordance with their values.

medmarrouchi 4mo ago

Applied twice and didn't get any response

ramon156 4mo ago

First hit's free

julianlam 4mo ago

6 months is a joke. Companies a thousandth their size are giving free or at-cost access for OSS projects.

bibryam 4mo ago

A few AI companies giving free stuff to OSS maintainers - Dosu - CodeRabbit - OpenAI - Anthropic https://www.oss.fund/explore/?pillar=operational-support&category=infrastructure&tag=ai https://www.oss.fund/explore/?pillar=operational-support&cat...