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since the rise of agentic coding tools, it feels like we're in a new "eternal september" of people discovering ui end-to-end test automation.
by hugs 4mo ago
since the rise of agentic coding tools, it feels like we're in a new "eternal september" of people discovering ui end-to-end test automation.
- inigyou 4mo agoPeople are rediscovering everything. Some people have proposed using a more formal language to tell the AI precisely what code to write. That's a compiler.
- acdha 4mo agoAlso the merits of documentation and specs. It’s been eye-opening to see the subset of developers who were almost disdainful about writing documentation for their colleagues but are now tripping over themselves to do so for their clanker.
- simianwords 4mo ago[flagged]
- dragonwriter 4mo agoPositing an equivalence between a dismissive term for AI bots and a racial slur against black people is, like, super racist.
- acdha 4mo agoThat’s a rather stunning comparison: racism is a problem because it’s unfairly treating sentient beings but a pile of linear algebra is not even sentient, much less your peer. That’s part of why I used the term: “agent” isn’t current because agents have, well, agency and can be held accountable. https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/5/26/clankers/ https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/5/26/clankers/
- Daishiman 4mo agoAgents read the docs. People don't. That's the underlying reason.
- simoncion 4mo ago> People don't. People falling all over themselves to write docs for their pile-of-linear-algebra-with-a-smiley-face-painted-on-it [0] don't read the docs, no. People who give a shit about writing solid software that doesn't get them paged at three in the damn morning do. [0] The face is there to provide social-trustworthiness signals to engage the human pack-bonding instinct, natch.
- Daishiman 4mo agoYour sarcasm is unwarranted, because what I said is true and reflects the experience of a lot of people. A decade ago I left a job and spent the last week thoroughly documenting every flow and code section of an app that I worked with, which was the core value proposition of the company. A couple years later I ask around and nobody even took a look at that. People just don't read, and there are actually good reasons for that, one of them being that documentation is outdated in most orgs and the effort to keep it up to date is greater than reading the code.
- simoncion 4mo ago> ...what I said is true and reflects the experience of a lot of people. Wow. What I said is true and reflects the experience of a lot of people. Amazing!
- Daishiman 4mo agoThat's nice, but if you write docs and people don't read them then that's clearly not a winning strategy in many orgs.