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Does anyone know about the jailbreaks and attacks they are referring to? These are done through model queries?
by bmitc 4mo ago
Does anyone know about the jailbreaks and attacks they are referring to? These are done through model queries?
- MichaelZuo 4mo agoWhy would you trust anything they say at face value? When they literally just showed you they are being deceptive by sneaking in the weasel word “almost”?
- alexjurkiewicz 4mo agoFirstly, none of this post is the contract people are signing. So it's merely a summary. Secondly, like all contracts I'm sure there will be exceptions for holding data longer than 30 days with reasonable cause, eg a legal hold.
- MichaelZuo 4mo agoThis reply does not make sense. I did not claim it was the literal contract people would sign?
- bmitc 4mo agoI'm asking for information to understand. What about that says I trust what they say as face value?
- deminature 4mo agoOne of the major attack vectors is distillation, where millions of questions are auto-generated and coordinated to produce training data for new LLMs. Anthropic alleges Minimax, Deepseek and Kimi were trained this way. Deepseek 4 compares favorably to Opus, so they're probably trying to prevent Deepseek 5 from being a bootleg Mythos. https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-distillation-attacks https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-dist...
- pseudosavant 4mo agoIt takes a lot of audacity to train on all the data you can without any license, attribution, etc and then act like you can own the outputs of the model so that someone else doesn't make a model from your data without a license. I've lost a lot of respect for Anthropic in the last 24 hours.
- zarzavat 4mo agoEveryone knows it's bullshit but because these companies are being valued at a trillion dollars a piece, it's hard to say that if you were in their shoes you'd do any differently.
- shimman 4mo agoThis may surprise the cohort on hacker news but there are large amounts of people on this planet that value things beyond money like ethics or having principles. Excusing absolutely repugnant behavior because of money to be made is so deeply antihuman, but then again most people working at LLM companies are deeply antihuman to start with.
- zarzavat 4mo agoYou can say that but Anthropic are literally the "good guys" that were disgusted by Altman and co, yet even they seem to have sold off their morality. Absolute money corrupts absolutely.
- calgoo 4mo agoThey are not the good guys and never where. They where fine with the Claude being used to plan the murder of people and spying on people as long as they where outside the USA. That is not something "good guys" do, thats what sellouts do. Everyone working at these companies, who where paid small fortunes to ignore any feelings they might have. Hopefully we get a modern version of the nuremberg trials when this madness in the USA is over and we the people will then judge everyone involved.