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No, we are unhappy because there is no guarantee that my corporate documents wont be shared or trained on. We are already paying plus for using bedrock instead

by calgoo 4mo ago

No, we are unhappy because there is no guarantee that my corporate documents wont be shared or trained on. We are already paying plus for using bedrock instead of the API version from Anthropic, so now there is no reason to use bedrock anymore. This whole thing about this model being too powerful to share is just the usual BS. Is an advanced model that dont have guardrails, just like the models that have been shared with the US government for years.

Hizonner 4mo ago
... but you were silent when they did it to consumers...
- sailfast 4mo ago
  The consumers were paying for tokens with their data. If you pay for the tokens yourself the expectation is that your data doesn’t get trained on or used.
  - astrange 4mo ago
    Query streams aren't really useful data in any sense. Just like nobody else is actually profiting from "selling your data".
    - tensility 4mo ago
      Trying to figure out whether this statement was intended as sarcasm or if it's willfully blind to decades of rising surveillance capitalism as business model.
ValentineC 4mo ago
> We are already paying plus for using bedrock instead of the API version from Anthropic, so now there is no reason to use bedrock anymore. Doesn't Bedrock have the same API token pricing as paying Anthropic direct?
- EwanToo 4mo ago
  Yes, it's exactly the same price
pixl97 4mo ago
>This whole thing about this model being too powerful to share is just the usual BS. Then stop using AI. >But I want it all and I want it now. Spend a trillion dollars and make your own model. >No fair! Then petition your government to enact laws around this. Unfortunately the US government rules are currently "Yes, we want AI to take over the world with terminators, just as long as they share data with us".
- monomial 4mo ago
  > Then petition your government to enact laws around this. Do you really expect your government to do anything useful here?
dd8601fn 4mo ago
Isn’t the answer here to prohibit the use of Fable, org wide? I suppose it’s a reckoning for corporate bullshit about security and compliance. Have the fancy new, right now, or avoid funneling all your data to third parties. Your choice.

by calgoo 4mo ago

Hizonner 4mo ago

... but you were silent when they did it to consumers...

sailfast 4mo ago
The consumers were paying for tokens with their data. If you pay for the tokens yourself the expectation is that your data doesn’t get trained on or used.
- astrange 4mo ago
  Query streams aren't really useful data in any sense. Just like nobody else is actually profiting from "selling your data".
  - tensility 4mo ago
    Trying to figure out whether this statement was intended as sarcasm or if it's willfully blind to decades of rising surveillance capitalism as business model.

ValentineC 4mo ago

> We are already paying plus for using bedrock instead of the API version from Anthropic, so now there is no reason to use bedrock anymore. Doesn't Bedrock have the same API token pricing as paying Anthropic direct?

EwanToo 4mo ago
Yes, it's exactly the same price

pixl97 4mo ago

>This whole thing about this model being too powerful to share is just the usual BS. Then stop using AI. >But I want it all and I want it now. Spend a trillion dollars and make your own model. >No fair! Then petition your government to enact laws around this. Unfortunately the US government rules are currently "Yes, we want AI to take over the world with terminators, just as long as they share data with us".

monomial 4mo ago
> Then petition your government to enact laws around this. Do you really expect your government to do anything useful here?

dd8601fn 4mo ago

Isn’t the answer here to prohibit the use of Fable, org wide? I suppose it’s a reckoning for corporate bullshit about security and compliance. Have the fancy new, right now, or avoid funneling all your data to third parties. Your choice.