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why? tons of websites push misinformation intentionally. is there a truth requirement anywhere? i don’t get why this is a thing at all

burpingtree 4mo ago
What don’t you understand? Those websites that defame a company are liable for that defamation. In this case Google defamed a company in its AI summary and is this liable for that defamation.
- riskd 4mo ago
  So if I edit a Wikipedia article to share that consuming poison is safe and someone consumes poison after reading it… is Wikipedia legally liable?
  - anematode 4mo ago
    No, because Wikimedia isn't responsible for the behavior of its editors.
  - JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
    > is Wikipedia legally liable? Directly? Quite possibly. They'd then have to transfer that liability to you.
  - eqvinox 4mo ago
    > is Wikipedia legally liable? Probably not, because it's a similar situation where Wikipedia is accumulating user provided content. And people know Wikipedia can be freely edited. You, however, might be liable. It's your content.
  - incompatible 4mo ago
    Not for defamation, nobody was defamed in that scenario. But Wikipedia has been sued for defamation at least once: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International_v._Wikimedia_Foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International_v._Wi...
  - kevinxsun 4mo ago
    but if Wikipedia itself writes harmful content such as encouraging people to drink bleach, then wikipedia is liable. Google now generates its own content with AI, that defame others, so Google is liable.
vor_ 4mo ago
> is there a truth requirement anywhere? Yes, and it's called defamation when you don't follow it.
etchalon 4mo ago
There is absolutely a truth requirement. This is why you have to say "I think this person is a murderer" and not "This person is a murderer." One is opinion. One is fact. This isn't super hard.
HWR_14 4mo ago
And those tons of websites are liable for their misinformation. It's probably not worth suing some random blog because the author probably doesn't have money or lives in Russia. But Google has lots of money and a legal presence in almost every jurisdiction.
- trumpdong 4mo ago
  It's why people say "Donald Trump was held civilly liable for sexual assault in the E Jean Carroll case" instead of "Donald Trump raped E Jean Carroll"

burpingtree 4mo ago

What don’t you understand? Those websites that defame a company are liable for that defamation. In this case Google defamed a company in its AI summary and is this liable for that defamation.

riskd 4mo ago
So if I edit a Wikipedia article to share that consuming poison is safe and someone consumes poison after reading it… is Wikipedia legally liable?
- anematode 4mo ago
  No, because Wikimedia isn't responsible for the behavior of its editors.
- JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
  > is Wikipedia legally liable? Directly? Quite possibly. They'd then have to transfer that liability to you.
- eqvinox 4mo ago
  > is Wikipedia legally liable? Probably not, because it's a similar situation where Wikipedia is accumulating user provided content. And people know Wikipedia can be freely edited. You, however, might be liable. It's your content.
- incompatible 4mo ago
  Not for defamation, nobody was defamed in that scenario. But Wikipedia has been sued for defamation at least once: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International_v._Wikimedia_Foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_News_International_v._Wi...
- kevinxsun 4mo ago
  but if Wikipedia itself writes harmful content such as encouraging people to drink bleach, then wikipedia is liable. Google now generates its own content with AI, that defame others, so Google is liable.

vor_ 4mo ago

> is there a truth requirement anywhere? Yes, and it's called defamation when you don't follow it.

etchalon 4mo ago

There is absolutely a truth requirement. This is why you have to say "I think this person is a murderer" and not "This person is a murderer." One is opinion. One is fact. This isn't super hard.

HWR_14 4mo ago

And those tons of websites are liable for their misinformation. It's probably not worth suing some random blog because the author probably doesn't have money or lives in Russia. But Google has lots of money and a legal presence in almost every jurisdiction.

trumpdong 4mo ago
It's why people say "Donald Trump was held civilly liable for sexual assault in the E Jean Carroll case" instead of "Donald Trump raped E Jean Carroll"