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You can photocopy every page of your ebook too. Probably even easier to accomplish!

jlgreco 14y ago
Unless I am mistaken, that would/could be legally considered circumventing DRM, and would therefore be technically illegal despite fair use (which would permit you to photocopy the print book legally).
- edanm 14y ago
  I'm not sure there's a difference in photocopying an entire book and doing the same to a DRM book. Do you know specifically that there is a difference?
  - galadriel 14y ago
    One is a federal felony, other is a fair use. EDIT: Specifically, it is against the law to break DRM (unless for few cases outlined by library of Congress), and the law as written makes no exceptions for fair use. The courts have also held in positive that it was Congress intend to make breaking DRM a crime even if there is a fair use case.
    - Elepsis 14y ago
      ... Except that's wrong. It's not fair use to photocopy an entire book and it never has been. Let's not lose sight of the actual laws in our blind rage against DRM.
      - belorn 14y ago
        Making private complete copies is legal in most countries, in particular European ones. Private copying levy stems from this concept. Photocopy an entire book for private use only is thus perfectly legal if you are in one of those countries which allows it.
        josephlord 14y ago
        Not all of Europe. It certainly isn't allowed in the UK but we don't have a levy on recordable media. It isn't even legal to rip music to listen to on a computer or an mp3 player. Not that this law is widely followed (or to my knowledge enforced).
        belorn 14y ago
        There is discussion to create a global EU levy, but I didn't know UK did not already have it. To my knowledge, France, UK, Holland, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Finland and Norway has it, as well some of the baltic states.
      - jlgreco 14y ago
        Copy a physical book and you have infringed on its copyright. Copy an ebook with DRM and you have done the same, AND run afoul of the DMCA. Lets not lose sight of the fact that DRM does present a different situation by pulling additional laws into play, in our blind defense of DRM.
      - Dylan16807 14y ago
        If you put that copy directly into a safe and only drag it out when the original is destroyed, it sounds perfectly legal under fair use to me.
  - jlgreco 14y ago
    The DMCA kicks in if there is DRM involved.
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Unless I am mistaken, that would/could be legally considered circumventing DRM, and would therefore be technically illegal despite fair use (which would permit you to photocopy the print book legally).

edanm 14y ago
I'm not sure there's a difference in photocopying an entire book and doing the same to a DRM book. Do you know specifically that there is a difference?
- galadriel 14y ago
  One is a federal felony, other is a fair use. EDIT: Specifically, it is against the law to break DRM (unless for few cases outlined by library of Congress), and the law as written makes no exceptions for fair use. The courts have also held in positive that it was Congress intend to make breaking DRM a crime even if there is a fair use case.
  - Elepsis 14y ago
    ... Except that's wrong. It's not fair use to photocopy an entire book and it never has been. Let's not lose sight of the actual laws in our blind rage against DRM.
    - belorn 14y ago
      Making private complete copies is legal in most countries, in particular European ones. Private copying levy stems from this concept. Photocopy an entire book for private use only is thus perfectly legal if you are in one of those countries which allows it.
      - josephlord 14y ago
        Not all of Europe. It certainly isn't allowed in the UK but we don't have a levy on recordable media. It isn't even legal to rip music to listen to on a computer or an mp3 player. Not that this law is widely followed (or to my knowledge enforced).
        belorn 14y ago
        There is discussion to create a global EU levy, but I didn't know UK did not already have it. To my knowledge, France, UK, Holland, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Finland and Norway has it, as well some of the baltic states.
    - jlgreco 14y ago
      Copy a physical book and you have infringed on its copyright. Copy an ebook with DRM and you have done the same, AND run afoul of the DMCA. Lets not lose sight of the fact that DRM does present a different situation by pulling additional laws into play, in our blind defense of DRM.
    - Dylan16807 14y ago
      If you put that copy directly into a safe and only drag it out when the original is destroyed, it sounds perfectly legal under fair use to me.
- jlgreco 14y ago
  The DMCA kicks in if there is DRM involved.
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