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It's bad that Anthropic can determine what this means. If you're building a modern app you're likely training your own embedding models and now anthropic can j
by mips_avatar 4mo ago
It's bad that Anthropic can determine what this means. If you're building a modern app you're likely training your own embedding models and now anthropic can just silently sabotage your training pipelines?
- abixb 4mo ago>We estimate they will impact ~0.03% of traffic, concentrated in fewer than 0.1% of organizations At the scale of API requests that Anthropic sees, I think the affected organization count might be substantial, and they might not be getting the full model capability that they're paying top $$$ for. Also, wonder how they arrived at that estimation.
- wongarsu 4mo agoOne in 1000 organizations and one in 3000 requests is indeed a lot
- happyopossum 4mo agoThat’s 1 in 30,000 requests…
- dragonwriter 4mo agoNo, 0.1% is one in 1,000. 0.03 is (approximately) one in 3,000; one in 30,000 is 0.003%
- ViscountPenguin 4mo agoYou're off by an order of magnitude with those last two.
- mediaman 4mo agoDouble check your math. All of their posts in this thread are correct. 1/30,000 * 100 = .003
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- ViscountPenguin 4mo agoOh, fuck
- freakynit 4mo ago/r/TheyDidTheMath IYKYK
- dotancohen 4mo agoIf it makes you feel more comfortable, throw another significant digit at GP's decimal. Make it a 3 like the previous digit. Now multiply.
- monster_truck 4mo agoHey man your computer has a calculator try using it next time
- roland_nilsson 4mo agoCan't we use Claude to figure this out
- gck1 4mo agoAlso, aren't all Claude users in their own "organizations" in Anthropic's own terms?
- DonsDiscountGas 4mo agoI have no idea how you came to that conclusion. Unless your training pipeline involves actively querying one of Anthropic models, no they can't. And if it does you're distilling their model.
- VBprogrammer 4mo agoThe crocodile tears of companies who've hoovered up everything possible, regardless of permissions or legality, now crying that someone else is stealing their hard work is comical. I don't even think they can believe it themselves, it's in reality they are just trying to throw fear, uncertainty and doubt about potentially cheaper offerings.
- JumpCrisscross 4mo ago> crocodile tears Not what that means. Crocodile tears "is a colloquial term used to describe a false, insincere display of emotion" [1]. Defending yourself against an attack vector you just exploited is between savvy and hypocritical. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_tears https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_tears
- digitaltrees 4mo agoI think his use of crocodile tears is appropriate, anthropic is feigning a false sense of concern for safety when really it is anticompetitive behavior, and I think that selfish entitlement is related to the original act of intellectual property theft to use the worlds training data, most of which was not public domain, to distill the wisdom for their models. So why do they get to cry about people distilling the knowledge from their models that they themselves distilled from the worlds knowledge?
- mips_avatar 4mo agoLike if you're using claude code on a feature tangential to your training pipeline it's allowed to nerf itself and damage your AI work.
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