5 ms·
My bet is that Mythos is still over-hyped and the cybersecurity fear and guardrails are mostly marketing to force company partnerships through Glasswing and get
by hootz 4mo ago
My bet is that Mythos is still over-hyped and the cybersecurity fear and guardrails are mostly marketing to force company partnerships through Glasswing and get public attention.
- geerlingguy 4mo agoBingo. "We had to do extra work to make this safe because it's so advanced and dangerous..." how many times can they trot out that line before it loses its effect entirely?
- copperx 4mo agoOnly three times, if fables are right.
- YumpiLumpus 4mo ago[dead]
- TaupeRanger 4mo agoThe Startup Who Cried Unsafe, by AIsop
- aesthesia 4mo agoI mean, they do actually describe what that extra work was, and people elsewhere in this thread are complaining about the effects of those safeguards. So it's not like this is purely empty rhetoric.
- zem 4mo agopeople are not questioning whether they did the work, they are questioning whether the work was really necessary (i.e. if mythos is really so good that it needs safeguards to prevent malicious actors from using it)
- OtomotO 4mo agoWith homo "sapiens" "sapiens"? A few decades at least.
- ls612 4mo agoAnd to ensure that only USG-approved entities are allowed to secure their code.
- bel8 4mo agoIt worked for OpenAI when GPT 3 was deemed too dangerous to be released. This is just a spin of that.
- hootz 4mo agoI still remember it. "Open"AI going API-only because GPT-3 is really really dangerous, so forget the Open in our name and all of that, you can't download our models anymore and must request access to them because they pose a THREAT. Fast forward to today and GPT-3 has laughable performance.
- shoeb00m 4mo agoEven back then there were plenty of people who got fooled by AI generated articles. It's easier to spot AI writing now because we are so used to it. They were right to be concerned; not that it achieved much since oss models run laps around gpt-3 now.
- hootz 4mo agoBut it seems like that was not genuine concern, but instead a tactic to pivot to closed models and an API service with an excuse to do so, breaking the public's expectation that they would be a non-profit making open models, like their name implies.
- miohtama 4mo agoMythos is from the same guy who did "GPT-2 is too dangerous to release" https://naokishibuya.github.io/blog/2022-12-30-gpt-2-2019/ https://naokishibuya.github.io/blog/2022-12-30-gpt-2-2019/
- oceansky 4mo agoHe was kinda right. Lawyers, doctors, students, teachers. Lots of people using GPT models carelessly in harmful ways.
- alasano 4mo agoObviously not what he meant at the time but hilarious(ly sad) in retrospect.
- dmix 4mo agoDelaying a technology release is not going to stop that in the long term. Society, culture, and the support tooling just needs to adapt. Just like how AI coding is still in the early days. The sooner people learn the risks and build the infrastructure to make it fail less the better.
- InsideOutSanta 4mo agoPeople quote the "GPT-2 is too dangerous to release" thing as if it were wrong, but given all the slop all over social media and how it's used to create division and attack social cohesion, he was clearly right.
- killerstorm 4mo ago"Malicious use" means spam, propaganda bots, etc. It's nice to give people who work on spam filters some heads-up.
- supern0va 4mo agoIt's clear that the parent didn't bother to read the link they shared, which articulates exactly this. That's embarrassing. From the link: > They summarized their findings from the nine months: > 1. Humans find GPT-2 outputs convincing. > 2. GPT-2 can be fine-tuned for misuse. > 3. Detection is challenging (detection rates of ~95% for detecting 1.5B GPT-2-generated text by RoBERTa). > We’ve seen no strong evidence of misuse so far. > We need standards for studying bias. > > All these points are valid, and OpenAI did a great job identifying potential risks, especially misuse and biases, at an early stage.
- teaearlgraycold 4mo agoI know a security researcher at Google with access to Mythos. He says it's the "real deal" and that "there are career plans I had that are no longer viable".
- zeroonetwothree 4mo ago“trust me bro”
- teaearlgraycold 4mo agoHe could be incredibly naive. We'll all find out with time.
- CSSer 4mo agoYes, and "in collaboration with the U.S. Government" feels like a very gross ploy at appeal to authority. You don't need Mythos or really any SotA frontier model to make malware or do extensive penetration testing/reconnaissance already. Sure, Mythos might be faster/more efficient, but the cat has been out of the bag for awhile. Even the terminology "infrastructure providers" practically screams "Enterprise leads".
- Flere-Imsaho 4mo agoThe UK gov disagrees with you: https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/04/uk-govs-mythos-ai-tests-help-separate-cybersecurity-threat-from-hype/ https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/04/uk-govs-mythos-ai-tests-h... https://www.aisi.gov.uk/blog/our-evaluation-of-claude-mythos-previews-cyber-capabilities https://www.aisi.gov.uk/blog/our-evaluation-of-claude-mythos...
- cxvrfr 4mo agoGovernment of the least mismanaged country in the world?
- ainch 4mo agoAISI did also say that GPT-5.5, which has been public for months, scores basically the same as Mythos on their cybersec evaluation. But there wasn't as much media about about that for some reason. https://www.aisi.gov.uk/blog/our-evaluation-of-openais-gpt-5-5-cyber-capabilities https://www.aisi.gov.uk/blog/our-evaluation-of-openais-gpt-5...
- saddlerustle 4mo agoAISI found the release version of mythos preview outperformed GPT-5.5 https://x.com/AISecurityInst/status/2054589763173126339 https://x.com/AISecurityInst/status/2054589763173126339
- whazor 4mo agoI think all models can find vulnerabilities if read the entire code base. Or intelligently combine parts of the codebase. Especially with test loops.
- toddmorey 4mo agoI fear it's a smokescreen to manage cost and capacity.