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It goes to show that privacy is not a priority. And it should be.
by McDyver 4mo ago
It goes to show that privacy is not a priority. And it should be.
- m3kw9 4mo agoEU privacy laws are not there to protect your privacy, its there because the law makers don't know how modern privacy works and wants their name on the law so it seems they did something.
- flumpcakes 4mo agoEU has some of the best consumer protection and privacy laws on the planet.
- m3kw9 4mo agoTheir laws are basically the equivalent of if there is no code, there are no bugs. EU laws forces citizens to get no new tech, privacy preserved.
- izacus 4mo agoMan, if we had computers in EU we'd be really angry at your dumb false posts.
- microtonal 4mo agoUhm no, EU privacy laws are actually pretty simple: do not collect data you don't need without asking consent from a user first. Which should IMO be the basic principle worldwide. But unfortunately in many countries, companies are more powerful than governments/regulators, so they get to grab everything they can get their hands on.
- adrianN 4mo agoI think you should elaborate a bit on that because to me it seems that EU privacy laws are actually fairly good at protecting privacy.
- JumpCrisscross 4mo ago> privacy is not a priority Isn’t this less about privacy than competition?
- rvnx 4mo agoPart of it is also a certification circus. For example, with Copilot, you get a contractual pinky promise that they cannot access your data. Can engineers really not access ? Can the police really not access ? It's like AirTag for example. Apple cannot access it because it's scientifically "impossible" by design, but if they sign-in to your account, well it's over. Once Apple fills the right audit / certification / paperwork they will be able to enable that feature. It could also be a negotiation lever.
- anon7000 4mo agoNo, this is unrelated from privacy. The issue is that the EU won’t allow the new Siri because Apple isn’t willing to open up the system enough for 3rd party AI agents to get the same functionality.
- MBCook 4mo agoWhich I would argue is HARDER to do while preserving privacy.
- dd8601fn 4mo agoFunctionally the EU is requiring that Apple dramatically RELAX their privacy and security postures. I’m sure Apple doesn’t want to cave and give OpenAI free access to the spotlight semantic db, the ability see what’s on your screen at all times, etc.
- inetknght 4mo ago> Functionally the EU is requiring that Apple dramatically RELAX their privacy and security postures. No. Interoperability doesn't require Apple relax their privacy and security postures. It could instead require third parties to improve theirs.
- wtallis 4mo ago> It could instead require third parties to improve theirs. Apple made it sound like their proposal for that was rejected by the EU. And it would be consistent with previous regulatory decisions by the EU for them to not want Apple to be setting the rules for how third-party interoperability partners/competitors ensure privacy. It seems to me that the EU has a preference for protecting privacy with legal mechanisms, and generally doesn't approve of Apple's attempts to protect privacy with technical mechanisms because that inevitably limits interoperability with systems that aren't designed around the same restrictions and assumptions.
- dd8601fn 4mo ago