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The EU is only interested in interoperability and centralization of data so they can put their citizens under surveillance. I hope Apple continues to exit this

by mrcwinn 4mo ago

The EU is only interested in interoperability and centralization of data so they can put their citizens under surveillance. I hope Apple continues to exit this market on the edges.

throwaway27448 4mo ago
I don't think the GDPR came from an effort to surveil, but the world has changed in the last ten years and I do agree with this assessment today.
a_paddy 4mo ago
One of the main rights enabled by the GDPR is to request to have data deleted, how would that facilitate surveillance?
- rusk 4mo ago
  They have trackers in the Euros so they can track you across state lines /s
rusk 4mo ago
Ah yes the well known EU equivalent of the CIA, NSA The one that’s so secret it’s not in any of the treaties that the sovereign nations that comprise the EU signed up for and implemented in line with their own democratic processes That agency Meanwhile they struggle to put together a border patrol, but advanced pan European surveillance apparatus that isn’t run by the US. Yeah bro
- simjnd 4mo ago
  I don't think they were necessarily thinking of one EU-wide agency, but the recent attacks on encryption including Chat Control which almost passed, a lot of EU countries voting for far-right governments. I do believe we still have it better than in the US wrt privacy (e.g. we don't have Flock cameras), but we need to be careful considering what EU governments have been doing.
  - rusk 4mo ago
    > EU governments “European” governments. Non-european governments too. By definition “not” the EU
    - simjnd 4mo ago
      Of course, but I'm replying to a comment that speaks like surveillance doesn't exist in the EU because there is not a European NSA, so I'm talking specifically about the EU surveillance risk.
      - rusk 4mo ago
        > I'm talking specifically about the EU surveillance risk. So specifically NOT MI6, GCHQ, the Swiss, Norway, FSB. Only the members of an economic bloc that you envy. Okay bro

by mrcwinn 4mo ago

The EU is only interested in interoperability and centralization of data so they can put their citizens under surveillance. I hope Apple continues to exit this market on the edges.

throwaway27448 4mo ago

I don't think the GDPR came from an effort to surveil, but the world has changed in the last ten years and I do agree with this assessment today.

a_paddy 4mo ago

One of the main rights enabled by the GDPR is to request to have data deleted, how would that facilitate surveillance?

rusk 4mo ago
They have trackers in the Euros so they can track you across state lines /s

rusk 4mo ago

Ah yes the well known EU equivalent of the CIA, NSA The one that’s so secret it’s not in any of the treaties that the sovereign nations that comprise the EU signed up for and implemented in line with their own democratic processes That agency Meanwhile they struggle to put together a border patrol, but advanced pan European surveillance apparatus that isn’t run by the US. Yeah bro

simjnd 4mo ago
I don't think they were necessarily thinking of one EU-wide agency, but the recent attacks on encryption including Chat Control which almost passed, a lot of EU countries voting for far-right governments. I do believe we still have it better than in the US wrt privacy (e.g. we don't have Flock cameras), but we need to be careful considering what EU governments have been doing.
- rusk 4mo ago
  > EU governments “European” governments. Non-european governments too. By definition “not” the EU
  - simjnd 4mo ago
    Of course, but I'm replying to a comment that speaks like surveillance doesn't exist in the EU because there is not a European NSA, so I'm talking specifically about the EU surveillance risk.
    - rusk 4mo ago
      > I'm talking specifically about the EU surveillance risk. So specifically NOT MI6, GCHQ, the Swiss, Norway, FSB. Only the members of an economic bloc that you envy. Okay bro