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Don’t eSIMs solve this problem for tourists?
by mc32 4mo ago
Don’t eSIMs solve this problem for tourists?
- nickphx 4mo agoOnly if you do not require voice service.
- naturalmovement 4mo agoApple — and now Google — have "solved" this problem for the government by removing physical SIM slots in US iPhones.
- TylerE 4mo agoThus eSIM
- vfclists 4mo agoDoesn't an eSIM link the SIM to the phone's IMEI which is usually logged somewhere?
- ezfe 4mo agoYes, eSIM doesn't really change this conversation
- ezfe 4mo agoeSIM doesn't change local laws around cell phones - it's not magic.
- RankingMember 4mo agoYep, they'll still prompt for the info.
- lmz 4mo agoIt can if it's a roaming eSIM. I'm sure all the countries mentioned here e.g. Australia still handles US SIMs roaming there fine even when the US SIM dossn't have ID tied to it.
- ezfe 4mo agoA roaming eSIM would work the same way as a roaming SIM. Just because it's easier to set up (no need to get a physical SIM) doesn't change the regulations around it.
- lmz 4mo agoI suppose this depends on how the law is written, but are roaming users subject to local SIM regulations for network use? I can't imagine asking for ID from tourists using their existing SIMs is going to work. I believe some travel eSIMs are actually issued from outside the country you're going to.
- morpheuskafka 4mo agoTypically not. Because they don't have local phone numbers nor IP addresses, so they cannot be used for scams or fake identities domestically. In China, roaming SIMs also bypass all internet filtering, it's basically a built in VPN back to your home telecom. And as you said, ones marketed as "China travel SIMs" are typically issued from Hong Kong. Interestingly, Hong Kong also has an ID rule (though it allows self upload of ID anyway), but it exempts these roaming-only cards. If you want the card to work in HK, and it is issued from there, you must scan your passport to activate it.
- ezfe 4mo agoRight, but that distinction is not because it's an eSIM - it's just how it's issued. There's no technical distinction, just a practical ease of issuance.
- izacus 4mo agoIn what way? Activating it still needs KYC.