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OASIS did that one when they announced their return tour. "We have no control over the ticket prices" Yeah you do, there's no show without you...

lomase 5mo ago
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jorisw 5mo ago
What incentive would Oasis have to help bring down the prices for their own shows anyway?
- Y_Y 5mo ago
  Presumably the don't want only old rich people and empty seats. Otherwise you could self-scalp all the tickets at the highest price possible, maximisung revenue for a single gig but making it so unfun/bad press that you come off worse.
  - KeplerBoy 5mo ago
    I think a majority of old rich people is pretty much unavoidable at a return tour.
    - fortran77 4mo ago
      Why does Hacker News hate us old people so much? Of course, I usually only see old acts (the B52s / Devo show was great!) and most of the audiences for those are 60+ years old, like me. Next week, I'm seeing Steve Forbert!
- QuantumNomad_ 5mo ago
  Idk about Oasis specifically, but there have been multiple examples of other bands fighting to keep the concert tickets affordable for their fans. Nirvana did that for example. And even if you explicitly want to charge as much as possible from your fans, why claim that you have no influence over the price?
  - darkwater 5mo ago
    > but there have been multiple examples of other bands fighting to keep the concert tickets affordable for their fans. Nirvana did that for example. Tickets price landscape radically changed in the last 30 years. They incremented between 3x to 5x (or even more) in that lapse of time, depending on the artist and venue, and accrued inflation doesn't explain it (quick search says that in the last 30 years in the Eurozone inflation grew ~85% and in the US ~110%)
  - ojdon 5mo ago
    Here is an interview with MTV where Nirvana are doing the maths of how much money they earn from ticket sales to their shows: https://youtube.com/shorts/anI0NT-_DRQ?si=abX0sy_C-XzxCIjG https://youtube.com/shorts/anI0NT-_DRQ?si=abX0sy_C-XzxCIjG
- gregoriol 5mo ago
  Having seen shows with super-premium prices at the front, with half the place being non-reactive to the show because people paying extra are not actually huge fans but huge wallets, yeah you need to put down prices and get those front tickets to fans if you want to have nice shows
  - peteforde 5mo ago
    You're basically describing my idea of hell.
  - palmotea 4mo ago
    > Having seen shows with super-premium prices at the front, with half the place being non-reactive to the show because people paying extra are not actually huge fans but huge wallets, yeah you need to put down prices and get those front tickets to fans if you want to have nice shows Probably depends on the band. An older "legacy" band like Oasis may not (my speculation) be affected by that, because it will have a lot of wealthy, older fans that both like the band and can pay super-premium prices. What you talk about probably applies more to newer, hotter bands where the enthusiasm is with younger and/or poorer people.
- peteforde 5mo ago
  I remember Oasis. They're the ones who literally pissed on the audience here back in the 90s. The idea that they care if their fans live or die really comes down to whether they could get sponsors on board or not.
  - trumpdong 5mo ago
    Can't find any evidence of this urination incident, got a link?
    - jorisw 5mo ago
      I think the word 'literally' has gone the way of the emdash
      - iso1631 5mo ago
        literally has had two meanings for decades, maybe centuries 1) Literally Literally 2) Figuratively It's semantic bleaching
        goodmythical 4mo ago
        Not sure why you're downvoted. People have literally been using literally both ways for at at least 25 years by my own observational record. You know, "I could literally eat a horse." in which it is clearly understood that the speaker is not claiming that they could physically fit a horse inside their stomache.
        ndriscoll 4mo ago
        Except in this case e.g. Shannon Hoon of Blind Melon actually did literally piss on the audience, so using the word literally to mean "not literally" is confusing because it's not obviously some exaggeration (and considering the timelines, the original comment may have been referring to a literal event but confusing who did it).
        4mo ago
- cush 4mo ago
  They don’t have control over the margins. They could set the MSRP as low as they want - the customer will still pay the same amount.
ndepoel 5mo ago
Which is complete nonsense anyway. Robert Smith from The Cure famously went against TicketMaster before their last world tour several years ago, pointing out the ridiculous prices and demanding that they be lowered to make their shows more accessible. He managed to get TicketMaster to budge and even got them to refund some of the marked up resale prices, costing them millions but generating a lot of goodwill among fans in the process. It's not that artists do not have control, but they do need to put in a good amount of effort to make change happen.

lomase 5mo ago

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jorisw 5mo ago

What incentive would Oasis have to help bring down the prices for their own shows anyway?

Y_Y 5mo ago
Presumably the don't want only old rich people and empty seats. Otherwise you could self-scalp all the tickets at the highest price possible, maximisung revenue for a single gig but making it so unfun/bad press that you come off worse.
- KeplerBoy 5mo ago
  I think a majority of old rich people is pretty much unavoidable at a return tour.
  - fortran77 4mo ago
    Why does Hacker News hate us old people so much? Of course, I usually only see old acts (the B52s / Devo show was great!) and most of the audiences for those are 60+ years old, like me. Next week, I'm seeing Steve Forbert!
QuantumNomad_ 5mo ago
Idk about Oasis specifically, but there have been multiple examples of other bands fighting to keep the concert tickets affordable for their fans. Nirvana did that for example. And even if you explicitly want to charge as much as possible from your fans, why claim that you have no influence over the price?
- darkwater 5mo ago
  > but there have been multiple examples of other bands fighting to keep the concert tickets affordable for their fans. Nirvana did that for example. Tickets price landscape radically changed in the last 30 years. They incremented between 3x to 5x (or even more) in that lapse of time, depending on the artist and venue, and accrued inflation doesn't explain it (quick search says that in the last 30 years in the Eurozone inflation grew ~85% and in the US ~110%)
- ojdon 5mo ago
  Here is an interview with MTV where Nirvana are doing the maths of how much money they earn from ticket sales to their shows: https://youtube.com/shorts/anI0NT-_DRQ?si=abX0sy_C-XzxCIjG https://youtube.com/shorts/anI0NT-_DRQ?si=abX0sy_C-XzxCIjG
gregoriol 5mo ago
Having seen shows with super-premium prices at the front, with half the place being non-reactive to the show because people paying extra are not actually huge fans but huge wallets, yeah you need to put down prices and get those front tickets to fans if you want to have nice shows
- peteforde 5mo ago
  You're basically describing my idea of hell.
- palmotea 4mo ago
  > Having seen shows with super-premium prices at the front, with half the place being non-reactive to the show because people paying extra are not actually huge fans but huge wallets, yeah you need to put down prices and get those front tickets to fans if you want to have nice shows Probably depends on the band. An older "legacy" band like Oasis may not (my speculation) be affected by that, because it will have a lot of wealthy, older fans that both like the band and can pay super-premium prices. What you talk about probably applies more to newer, hotter bands where the enthusiasm is with younger and/or poorer people.
peteforde 5mo ago
I remember Oasis. They're the ones who literally pissed on the audience here back in the 90s. The idea that they care if their fans live or die really comes down to whether they could get sponsors on board or not.
- trumpdong 5mo ago
  Can't find any evidence of this urination incident, got a link?
  - jorisw 5mo ago
    I think the word 'literally' has gone the way of the emdash
    - iso1631 5mo ago
      literally has had two meanings for decades, maybe centuries 1) Literally Literally 2) Figuratively It's semantic bleaching
      - goodmythical 4mo ago
        Not sure why you're downvoted. People have literally been using literally both ways for at at least 25 years by my own observational record. You know, "I could literally eat a horse." in which it is clearly understood that the speaker is not claiming that they could physically fit a horse inside their stomache.
        ndriscoll 4mo ago
        Except in this case e.g. Shannon Hoon of Blind Melon actually did literally piss on the audience, so using the word literally to mean "not literally" is confusing because it's not obviously some exaggeration (and considering the timelines, the original comment may have been referring to a literal event but confusing who did it).
        4mo ago
cush 4mo ago
They don’t have control over the margins. They could set the MSRP as low as they want - the customer will still pay the same amount.

ndepoel 5mo ago

Which is complete nonsense anyway. Robert Smith from The Cure famously went against TicketMaster before their last world tour several years ago, pointing out the ridiculous prices and demanding that they be lowered to make their shows more accessible. He managed to get TicketMaster to budge and even got them to refund some of the marked up resale prices, costing them millions but generating a lot of goodwill among fans in the process. It's not that artists do not have control, but they do need to put in a good amount of effort to make change happen.