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>Have you considered the possibility that H1B teachers are simply better (at any price point) ? That sounds sort of racist, actually.

bijowo1676 4mo ago
It is not racist, but it is true. The Education major is one of the bottom majors, Americans with the lowest grades and lowest SAT scores go on to become public school teachers. and it is well known information among Americans themselves. https://x.com/marcportermagee/status/1954326425072546055/photo/1 https://x.com/marcportermagee/status/1954326425072546055/pho... https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2023-total-group-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA.pdf https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2023-total-group-... The average SAT for Education majors: 1023 It’s ranked 24th, behind Communications (19th), Library Science (13th), and English (11th). The top major: Math. while foreigners on H1B are top percentile in academic performance and scoring and generally H1B attract top 1% talent from the global talent pool, especially given there are only like 60k visas issued per year. People who look at the stats objectively should be the first ones to advocate for more H1B teachers, if that meant children would get dramatically better education
- annzabelle 4mo ago
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  - bijowo1676 4mo ago
    What this has to do with American public school teachers coming from the bottom of the barrel of talent pool ???
    - annzabelle 4mo ago
      Your claim that H1Bs come from the cream of the crop is patently false.
- fweimer 4mo ago
  Do SAT scores measure anything about pedagogic aptitude? I expect that at best, you get some form of correlation (in which direction?). For teachers, other things matter more than reasoning skills or subject matter knowledge, especially in rural or otherwise challenging communities.
  - bijowo1676 4mo ago
    It shows revealed preference: all smart people decide to work anywhere but education and public schools are scraping the barrel for talent. Results you can see with your own eyes. USA had to significantly dumb down SAT, switch to dumbed down “Common Core” curriculum, ditch gifted&talented programs across the board, ditch SAT requirements for college and introduce remedial math at Harvard!!! The creme de la creme of US Education system. If American teachers were any good, private schools would not be able to charge more than Ivy League tuition for very simple secondary education This is all consequence of what kind of people decide to become Teachers, and what kind of people decide to become Wall St Traders In the end this shows up in massive dependence on Foreign talent via H1B visas. US is importing engineers precisely because Americans did not have good STEM teachers who could teach them math and logic in middle school. https://abcnews.com/amp/GMA/Living/us-students-reading-math-scores-historic-lows-devastating/story?id=125392421 https://abcnews.com/amp/GMA/Living/us-students-reading-math-... https://www.realcleareducation.com/2025/03/20/harvard_launches_new_remedial_math_course_1098873.html https://www.realcleareducation.com/2025/03/20/harvard_launch...
Erem 4mo ago
Americans are every race. How could it be racist?

bijowo1676 4mo ago

It is not racist, but it is true. The Education major is one of the bottom majors, Americans with the lowest grades and lowest SAT scores go on to become public school teachers. and it is well known information among Americans themselves. https://x.com/marcportermagee/status/1954326425072546055/photo/1 https://x.com/marcportermagee/status/1954326425072546055/pho... https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2023-total-group-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA.pdf https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2023-total-group-... The average SAT for Education majors: 1023 It’s ranked 24th, behind Communications (19th), Library Science (13th), and English (11th). The top major: Math. while foreigners on H1B are top percentile in academic performance and scoring and generally H1B attract top 1% talent from the global talent pool, especially given there are only like 60k visas issued per year. People who look at the stats objectively should be the first ones to advocate for more H1B teachers, if that meant children would get dramatically better education

annzabelle 4mo ago
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- bijowo1676 4mo ago
  What this has to do with American public school teachers coming from the bottom of the barrel of talent pool ???
  - annzabelle 4mo ago
    Your claim that H1Bs come from the cream of the crop is patently false.
fweimer 4mo ago
Do SAT scores measure anything about pedagogic aptitude? I expect that at best, you get some form of correlation (in which direction?). For teachers, other things matter more than reasoning skills or subject matter knowledge, especially in rural or otherwise challenging communities.
- bijowo1676 4mo ago
  It shows revealed preference: all smart people decide to work anywhere but education and public schools are scraping the barrel for talent. Results you can see with your own eyes. USA had to significantly dumb down SAT, switch to dumbed down “Common Core” curriculum, ditch gifted&talented programs across the board, ditch SAT requirements for college and introduce remedial math at Harvard!!! The creme de la creme of US Education system. If American teachers were any good, private schools would not be able to charge more than Ivy League tuition for very simple secondary education This is all consequence of what kind of people decide to become Teachers, and what kind of people decide to become Wall St Traders In the end this shows up in massive dependence on Foreign talent via H1B visas. US is importing engineers precisely because Americans did not have good STEM teachers who could teach them math and logic in middle school. https://abcnews.com/amp/GMA/Living/us-students-reading-math-scores-historic-lows-devastating/story?id=125392421 https://abcnews.com/amp/GMA/Living/us-students-reading-math-... https://www.realcleareducation.com/2025/03/20/harvard_launches_new_remedial_math_course_1098873.html https://www.realcleareducation.com/2025/03/20/harvard_launch...

Erem 4mo ago

Americans are every race. How could it be racist?