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There's as many teachers in Alaska as they're willing to pay for.
by throwaway85825 4mo ago
There's as many teachers in Alaska as they're willing to pay for.
- nsagent 4mo agoHaving lived in bumblefuck Alaska for a year, I can honestly say that they do in fact pay more, but it's also super expensive to live in rural Alaska. Likely a bigger issue is that very few people want to live in a town of 3000 people or less that isn't connected to the interstate road system. Money can only do so much to fix that.
- throwaway85825 4mo agoSome people live in a pressurized bubble for a month for saturation diving. If the price is right you can get someone to do almost anything.
- allarm 4mo agoIt doesn't matter how much money you have if you can't spend it.
- throwaway85825 4mo agoThat applies to a ton of people in the military. People are capable of delayed gratification.
- redserk 4mo agoRepeating trite platitudes only makes your argument sound weak and tired.
- thisisit 4mo agoWhat is the federal budget for military vs education? Which one increases and which one decreases most of the time?
- janalsncm 4mo agoWell, maybe that’s the solution to the problem. Deploy troops to the classrooms.
- RobotToaster 4mo agoDoes Amazon not deliver to Alaska?
- fc417fc802 4mo agoThat is true but I think the salient observation here is that it's only realistic to pay so much for education. So either you can't have children in such a town, or you're forced to homeschool, or (I guess what's being suggested is) you import someone willing to work an undesirable job if it gets them into the country. I think there's an important difference between importing labor to undercut qualified americans in a populated area versus importing labor to do a job that the vast majority of qualified americans will have no interest in at any reasonable pay rate.
- 8note 4mo agoyou could also export the children, or the whole family, to a place that can support teachers
- hdgvhicv 4mo agoDepopulating rural Alaska, or America in general, is certainly a campaign strategy.
- murderfs 4mo agoI mean, so's "Bumfuck, Alaska needs a handful of teachers, therefore we're going to import infinite Indians"
- fc417fc802 4mo agoWho said anything about infinite? I don't see anything wrong with importing labor if it's of net benefit to our society. If there was genuinely no citizen that wanted the job for any reasonable price then what's the harm in bringing in an educated outsider who contributes positively? It improves several metrics simultaneously without harming anyone.
- spwa4 4mo agoYou could also say that India is below replacement fertility. Which, if Indian history is anything to go by, will mean India will outlaw emigration to protect ultra-rich Indians. China has already mostly made emigration illegal. The rest of the world will follow.
- watwut 4mo agoI would be fully willing to live in a pressurized bubble for a month for saturation diving. Sounds cool and doable. Living for years in rural Alaska and being a teacher? Absolutely not. That being said, there are not that many saturation divers, because being a month in a bubble is kind of least problem with it. The lifelong health impact is.
- maratc 4mo agoThe biggest issue with saturation diving is not the pressure or the health impact, it's the fact that you share a tiny space with 3-6 other people for a month. This might be the opposite of living in Alaska where you share a really huge amount of space with not a lot of other people.
- s1artibartfast 4mo agoYes, there is supply and demand. However, that doesnt mean a government cant restrict supply.
- dani__german 4mo agoIt precisely and explicitly demands that the government restrict supply of foreign labor, as that increases the fair market value of American wage earners. It increases the opportunities for young Americans to trade their labor for a start in life, to support their families, and to make our nation stronger. Importing foreign labor makes it more difficult to justify hiring Americans, and undermines the nation's long term success for short term gains. It is effectively an Anti-investment.
- intended 4mo agoIf the clearing rate is equal to the cost of an engineer at a tech firm in SF, the education budget for a small town in Alaska wouldn't afford it. Your formulation isn't wrong, however it covers only one scenario. What happens when the locality cannot afford the cost to attract people to their region? This is not even theoretical, its what happened to the rest of the world, as their best and brightest immigrated to America or Europe. You could say "them's the breaks" and I would understand. However people vote for solutions, so how would you cover the worst case scenario?
- dani__german 4mo agowe already massively subsidize Alaskan transportation and infrastructure. Adding school teachers, or changing school teacher education requirements, are both options.
- s1artibartfast 4mo agoThis supposes and outcome where domestic wages are increased and investment is made. It supposes that americans are willing and capable of doing the labor at a price point that americans will accept. It is also possible we will simply not teach these children (or build infrastructure, grow labor intensive crop, ect).